Randoms are far better without people there chasing some CP/HP. They could make base gear drops at 900, and echoes reward 925 or 930... but templates have improved random BGs so those should 100% stay.
tfw u get a 940 elite PvP piece but some LFR pieces are higher than 940 xd
Itâs not just arena. Even random BGâs, the âworld questâ equip of PVP is trash. You put in 10-30 minutes worth of effort, presumably youâre trying to win, and youâre rewarded with what - some 870 piece of trash that gets DEâed into 1 fragment of which it takes 100 to possibly get something decent for your level? Thereâs zero reward on any tier of PvP thatâs worth doing. Outside of appearances, it just doesnât matter in game now.
12/28/2017 09:58 PMPosted by Eldrethanafragment of which it takes 100
75... and some offer 15 echoes.
12/28/2017 09:58 PMPosted by EldrethanaThereâs zero reward on any tier of PvP thatâs worth doing. Outside of appearances, it just doesnât matter in game now.
The way randoms should be. Do it because you enjoy it
juga like your the only one who always defends blizzard.
12/28/2017 11:07 PMPosted by Assasinjuga like your the only one who always defends blizzard.
Nah. The many people who play the game do as well.
I have played WoW off and on since Vanilla, always as a filthy casual because Real Life. Nevertheless, my best video gaming experiences have come from Warcraft which is why I always keep returning.
I first started PvP when the Honor Grind was a thing and the Warlords sets were the goal. I was unable to raid so that was my only way to get decent gear. I worked it out and had to hit almost 30 hours a week in PvP on my Hunter to qualify. This is with wife, kids, busy job. I did it all in off hours so real life would not be affected.
When I finally got those shoulders to complete that horrid lime green set I did a victory dance by my computer I was so happy. Totally awesome achievement just from grinding and having fun.
For casuals like myself who really enjoy dropping into PvP, the grind is fun, and it's a fun way to get good gear.
I definitely miss that aspect of PvP.
I first started PvP when the Honor Grind was a thing and the Warlords sets were the goal. I was unable to raid so that was my only way to get decent gear. I worked it out and had to hit almost 30 hours a week in PvP on my Hunter to qualify. This is with wife, kids, busy job. I did it all in off hours so real life would not be affected.
When I finally got those shoulders to complete that horrid lime green set I did a victory dance by my computer I was so happy. Totally awesome achievement just from grinding and having fun.
For casuals like myself who really enjoy dropping into PvP, the grind is fun, and it's a fun way to get good gear.
I definitely miss that aspect of PvP.
At the start of the expansion, I remember them saying they wanted to create a similar sort of experience (as it pertains to gear aquisition in PVE) for pvp. They did this by essentially adding RNG to pvp gearing....
They need to go back to warlords gearing system imo. I think this was just a case of them trying to fix something that wasn't broken, and on top of that totally missing the mark on what they were going for.
When it comes to big mistakes like these, I find that Blizzard tends to be generally silent until they have a plan in place to improve it significantly. In this case, the fix won't come any sooner than BFA, which is why we don't see them responding here.
Rest assured they will most likely admit to all these issues and how they "missed the mark".....but only go into deeper detail as we approach BFA release.
They need to go back to warlords gearing system imo. I think this was just a case of them trying to fix something that wasn't broken, and on top of that totally missing the mark on what they were going for.
When it comes to big mistakes like these, I find that Blizzard tends to be generally silent until they have a plan in place to improve it significantly. In this case, the fix won't come any sooner than BFA, which is why we don't see them responding here.
Rest assured they will most likely admit to all these issues and how they "missed the mark".....but only go into deeper detail as we approach BFA release.
Who cares? Games ballsack commander gay pvp wise and blizz doesnt give a !@#$.
$$$$ is all that motivates blizz cause they treat this as a business not a game.
12/28/2017 10:49 PMPosted by Jugajr12/28/2017 09:58 PMPosted by Eldrethanafragment of which it takes 100
75... and some offer 15 echoes.12/28/2017 09:58 PMPosted by EldrethanaThereâs zero reward on any tier of PvP thatâs worth doing. Outside of appearances, it just doesnât matter in game now.
The way randoms should be. Do it because you enjoy it
Sorry it usually turns to 100 after a season switch. Glad gear gives 15, and itâs so few and far between itâs bad. Usually youâre shoved some 870 Combatants trash. âDo it because you enjoy itâ becomes monotonous to hear once you hit the 250k HK mark and see nothing but bad.
PvP used to be an alternative way to gear and enjoy the game. Now itâs a chore with no reward worth mentioning.
12/29/2017 08:14 AMPosted by NipnipzWho cares? Games ballsack commander gay pvp wise and blizz doesnt give a !@#$.
git gurd bra...for real..or do you want some extra salt with those fries? cuz your salty over a game bra.. #gitgurd bra
12/29/2017 09:35 AMPosted by EldrethanaSorry it usually turns to 100 after a season switch.
It's been 75 for a while now.
12/29/2017 09:35 AMPosted by EldrethanaGlad gear gives 15, and itâs so few and far between itâs bad.
Not from my experience. I get plenty of them.
12/29/2017 09:35 AMPosted by EldrethanaâDo it because you enjoy itâ becomes monotonous to hear once you hit the 250k HK mark and see nothing but bad.
I've been there 5+ years. BGs are about all I like the game for, and they are far better this expansion than the last couple.
12/29/2017 12:05 AMPosted by JugajrNah. The many people who play the game do as well.
Eh, I still play and crucify the team monthly for something or other in some forum.
Not sure how they were dumb enough to cater an MMO/RPG to Millenials and think that wasn't going to have a massive effect on the population, considering that MMO/RPG's are based in character depth and progression based on content done/time invested.
Take those things out of the mix and you have what the game is now, a Facebook game with a monthly.
We need to revert to Wrath or earlier rewards for pvp. Pve needs to get some depth in rotation and not be as RNG reliant to make bad players feel good about being bad, because that bleeds into PVP as well via RNG baked into core abilties and systems.
12/29/2017 09:43 AMPosted by RaziaelWe need to revert to Wrath or earlier rewards for pvp.
I'd like to go back to gear requiring rating, actually "working" for gear. Not what we had the last couple expansions tbh. But I still stand by templates for randoms because gear should never be the determining factor in a win/loss.
12/29/2017 09:35 AMPosted by Ruthlessmage12/29/2017 08:14 AMPosted by NipnipzWho cares? Games ballsack commander gay pvp wise and blizz doesnt give a !@#$.
git gurd bra...for real..or do you want some extra salt with those fries? cuz your salty over a game bra.. #gitgurd bra
I hate you.
12/29/2017 09:38 AMPosted by Jugajr12/29/2017 09:35 AMPosted by EldrethanaSorry it usually turns to 100 after a season switch.
It's been 75 for a while now.12/29/2017 09:35 AMPosted by EldrethanaGlad gear gives 15, and itâs so few and far between itâs bad.
Not from my experience. I get plenty of them.12/29/2017 09:35 AMPosted by EldrethanaâDo it because you enjoy itâ becomes monotonous to hear once you hit the 250k HK mark and see nothing but bad.
I've been there 5+ years. BGs are about all I like the game for, and they are far better this expansion than the last couple.
Iâm itâs usually 75 for the first season, 100 for the second. Since this is 3 seasons of similar appearance itâs going probably going to stay 75.
Your experience differs from mine and others wherein we largely get the 870 garbage. Anecdotal evidence I suppose is just as meritless on either side.
Iâve been playing since Vanilla and I find something is extremely lacking in Legion BGâs, some feeling. But thatâs not what this post is about. This post is about the lack of rewards from instanced PvP which is partially why people are being driven away from participation.
Kind of sad that I ended the week at 1900 last week and my weekly isn't even worth a bonus roll since I'll be doing heroic with my guilds alts tonight.
12/29/2017 10:25 AMPosted by BertimusKind of sad that I ended the week at 1900 last week and my weekly isn't even worth a bonus roll since I'll be doing heroic with my guilds alts tonight.
I dont even play warr for gear. Me and my partner did the same and both of us are like eh....GG back to pve on the mains.
That being said. That shows you 3s is a waste of time because its harder to find 3 people who can play at the same time.
They should really try and just balance 2s. I think one good set of arenas would be better than complete !@#$.
5s was fun but lets be honest...Are you gonna find a team of 5 people who are willing to play at the same time?
12/29/2017 10:23 AMPosted by EldrethanaIâm itâs usually 75 for the first season, 100 for the second. Since this is 3 seasons of similar appearance itâs going probably going to stay 75.
It started out 100 beginning of the expansion... 75 is a permanent change.
12/29/2017 10:23 AMPosted by EldrethanaYour experience differs from mine and others wherein we largely get the 870 garbage. Anecdotal evidence I suppose is just as meritless on either side.
True.
12/29/2017 10:23 AMPosted by EldrethanaThis post is about the lack of rewards from instanced PvP which is partially why people are being driven away from participation.
Rated participation is down but casual, random BG activity is up. Rated pvp has it's own issues though.