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12/14/2017 06:04 AMPosted by GriffinI dont think you understand how protesting works
No, I understand it just fine.
But I also understand how Blizzard (apparently) sees the PvP community and generally interacts with it.
12/14/2017 06:04 AMPosted by GriffinWell he can either not try to spread this out to the masses and just stay quiet (which won’t help), or share it everywhere and actually have a chance of making some noise.
You wanna spread it? Go make a thread in Gen Disc, the BG forums, the PTR forums, and wherever it might be relevant. Show up, act like you're not an idiot, don't engage with Gen Disc trolls and people that derail every PvP thread, and you'll improve your chances of getting an answer.
Probably still not likely (cause lolpvp), but spamming links to this in a bunch of unrelated, mostly dead threads that happened to have a Blue post in it isn't "spreading it to the masses," pal. That's just making it easier for Blizzard to dismiss.
Venruki should post this in the GD
Then we can upvote it and bump it for ages until it gets a blue post
We've waited a year for blizz to make things better for PvP and so far we've received squat.
Then we can upvote it and bump it for ages until it gets a blue post
We've waited a year for blizz to make things better for PvP and so far we've received squat.
I mean... it doesn't get much easier for Blizzard to dismiss than it being on the arena forums.12/14/2017 01:18 PMPosted by BanaphelThat's just making it easier for Blizzard to dismiss.
It blows my mind that random battleground gear is 40 ilvls lower than veiled argunite gear. I mean 910 is pretty weak this patch, but 870 is atrocious.
Especially considering that in a BG you can actually lose, and they arguably take more time than world quests.12/14/2017 01:45 PMPosted by ChurchmouseIt blows my mind that random battleground gear is 40 ilvls lower than veiled argunite gear. I mean 910 is pretty weak this patch, but 870 is atrocious.
It’s not just gearing is bad in pvp. People who do rated battlegrounds have to contend with a culture of people selling rating for real world cash. The brackets in rated battlegrounds are skewed because many people pay for rating. So the people who enjoy the best gear are either selling rating or are paying for it. Until blizzard addresses the culture of cheating in rated battlegrounds gearing will be even more out of wack.
I think the arena carries are moreso of a problem (though I guess rbgs have the Hero thing too)... but Arena carries to glad / glad alts eat up quite a lot of the very few amount of glad spots left these days due to dwindling population numbers (since glad is % based).12/14/2017 02:47 PMPosted by KatedruIt’s not just gearing is bad in pvp. People who do rated battlegrounds have to contend with a culture of people selling rating for real world cash. The brackets in rated battlegrounds are skewed because many people pay for rating. So the people who enjoy the best gear are either selling rating or are paying for it. Until blizzard addresses the culture of cheating in rated battlegrounds gearing will be even more out of wack.
Venruki's post is spot on, deeply appreciate a PvP community voice speaking up. PvP gearing as a casual does not feel rewarding. Prestige was a nice step for incentives to PvP, but the ball was dropped this expac.
Here's to hoping feedback produces some results.
Here's to hoping feedback produces some results.
problem is we need resilence back for pvp gear to seperate us from the pve content lovers like wotlk had back in the day also bring back titles for farming like warlord titles back in day when av was blast cause it lasted for days not seconds.
12/14/2017 09:40 AMPosted by Annebananshould bring back rating requirements to purchase certain pieces of PvP gear, but scale the PvP gear as high as raiding. or nearly.
no, mop/wod system was good enought.
There's almost no point in queuing until the last two weeks of the season unless you are looking for partners.
Also get rid of this RNG gearing it sucks, i also want to be able to customize stats i want to be able to use more durability over damage or visa vs. I want to be able to use some kind of thrinkrts in pvp because it added alot of flavor into the game.
Post in the GD thread: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759618874?page=1
Blizzard never responds to legitimate posts here.
Blizzard never responds to legitimate posts here.
4 days ago 322 likes btw.
Keep it up boys.
They may take our loots, but they'll never take our freedom!
Keep it up boys.
They may take our loots, but they'll never take our freedom!
You are 100% correct. There is a disincentive to PVP as opposed to PVE in order to gear up. Also Legion gearing progression is so clunky and confusing there is no clear path to take in order to fully gear ones character. The mistake made in this expansion compared to previous expansion is that Blizzard adopted the RNG gearing/reward system similar to that of other mobile games (think Clash of Clans) and games like Battlefront that employ a random reward system which studies have shown to be the most addictive. There was a conscious decision made to employ such a system I assume not for rewarding game play reasons but specifically for player retention / profitability reasons. And there in lies the problem. Too many decisions are being made with money in mind as opposed to designing a enjoyable and fun game that people come back to because they enjoy it and not because the game is designed to be as addictive as possible and suck the most money out of the user as possible. Blizzard deserves any and all negative consequences of their selfish and greedy business decisions.
still no blue, nice
wonder if this is intended.
If blizz wants pvp players like Venruki to get into pve and for pve players not to get into pvp.
If the end goal is to find a way to keep pvp players subbed even if pvp goes away.
If blizz wants pvp players like Venruki to get into pve and for pve players not to get into pvp.
If the end goal is to find a way to keep pvp players subbed even if pvp goes away.
12/15/2017 09:01 AMPosted by Moppaladinstill no blue, nice
You want a blue go to gd the thread has been placed there. Start a petty unrelated argument to get some traffic
Agree, I spend more time doing PvE content on alts and new characters than actual battlegrounds. World Quests are faster to get your honor talents on a new character than spamming battlegrounds and you need the gear anyways. Mythic+ better for AP/Gear. Anything that improves your power in PVP is faster and more efficient getting it via PVE. I can see AP being slightly more efficient in PVE to discourage people who hate PVP doing it for faster AP gains but the difference is way off.