PVP Cowardice!

Wyrmrest Accord
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Just to begin, this is going to be a mean small wall of text, with a generalization of MG.
So I was in Lavia’s Patience world questing in Warmode. Generally I don’t care if I die, infact I have fun just getting into fights. I got into a few good fights with this 79 Ret and his Elemental buddy. We fought back and forth for like an hour from quest to quest spot. They were from a MG guild called pvp pizza party.

Eventually they must have gotten upset that I kept winning at one point cause I kept shooting and blasting them off a cliff edge cause they had a 3rd member join a Holy Pally with about 8m hp so Im guessing he was in PRETTY high gear -.-
3 v 1 became impossible so I asked in chat if anyone was around to help me out?
I would have asked in FLAK but I dont have it on my hunter.

Normally and what I was expecting was Nothing…no one to say anything…which fine whatever -.-

But instead I got 2 different replys from MG people more or less saying they dont pvp and dont care they are in warmode. One of them also called me a try hard…what ever that means.

The comment felt really insulting though. IF your gonna be in Warmode you should be willing to assist and to FIGHT. If you wanna be some loser looking for free bonus loot why arent you on Alliance Moon Guard!

Im glad we have groups like FLAK cause we need them. Because we sure arent going to get any random help from the Cowards in Warmode from Moon Guard…

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Welcome to Wymrest Accord, would you like to tell us about your RP character?

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i kinda wish they’d do away with faction barriers and instead make war mode a free-for-all. or have like faction agnostic pvp areas where you just kill everyone you see (like in Legion!).

making it dangerous regardless of your faction would probably mean war mode could be something besides farming rewards on a faction-heavy server.

like. finding horde/alliance to kill on certain servers is near impossible, and the flip side is that you’re so very outnumbered, so i don’t really do war mode anymore. but if i knew going into war mode that everyone was fair game, or we had a little pit where you can go and beat up other players, i might world pvp more often.

I think there’s one in azh-kajet but it’s a bit out of the way.

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While Horde isn’t right for me, rolling with MG or ED Alliance is just plain wrong! Lol! I would no doubt jump in if WM were a free-for-all allowing Alliance and Horde to team up and just have fun WPvP’g. I never understood the whole fear of “death” in game.

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This. The call to solve PvP problems with PvP solutions comes up often but my geared character is always on the wrong faction to help out. I’d love a FFA mode that gives you a blue or red flag/outline and you can duke it out in open world.

Also, to the commenters who said rude things to OP… Warmode is Warmode. PvP is invited and to be expected. Not sure why they’d have it on and be surprised others expect to PvP.

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Didn’t you have to pay people for pictures of another player’s dead character because you couldn’t do it yourself?

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i LONG for the day someone would put a bounty on me

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Theres not any PVP world quests currently in game that arent Free For All areas, and theyve been that way since Shadowlands. There is like two free for all areas in every zone this expac. So ???

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You know he’s an RPer, right?

That was kind of an IC thing and it wasn’t because he couldn’t do it, himself. There’s a whole story behind the story. Xara was an RP-PvPer who started out as a Horde player and swapped to Alliance. It ticked off a lot of the PvP community at the time and became a “thing” when he went on to kick butt in WG. Some people blew the situation out of proportion. Others didn’t. It mostly felt like the Horde lost one of its PvP “leaders” at the time.

So yeah, at one time Kiethoo offered some gold for pictures of Xara having been taken down in WG. But it had nothing to do with whether or not he could take Xara. At the time, Horde mostly dominated WG - no one needed help there. Asking for the screenshots was more like schtick. Nobody actually expected to flood the forums with screenshots of Xara.

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You know what’s funny I had like a really similar experience yesterday! I normally don’t play during peak hours bc that’s family time, but I found some time so I was messing around and someone asked for help against a priest. Myself and a couple others came by to help and I did for a bit. The person who asked for help was from MG and was massively complaining that they were attacking him or her.

Me: Well that’s Warmode. That’s the fun of it!
Priest: No they’re (bad words). Why are they even here? They’e not from our server.
Me: Ok well you can hop off Warmode for a bit if you want. No problem with that.

Then someone said : Oh look Sholaad’s a conservative. HA, he doesn’t even have a TRP, what a surprise.

I started laughing. PvP is fun! I’m not sure why people who don’t like it play warmode!

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Being in warmode to level and not to PvP was a thing a few years ago. We had discussions about how most people were just looking for an XP boost and didn’t want to fight. They got mad if they got attacked and no amount of saying “you’re in the PvP phase” made them less indignant.

I don’t bother with warmode because of how broken it is. It will push players into different phases in some attempt to balance but all it really does is put you into a phase where you’ll get overrun with the other faction.

The last time I tried it was at the start of SL. It started off ok, where there were a small handful of us in Bastion and we were fair about it, doing quests, attacking each other off the quest item pick ups, stuff like that. Then it phased in a huge group of Alliance and the fun ended. I decided I didn’t want to get steamrolled and farmed, so I hearthed.

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I have nothing constructive to add to the discussion other than using Chatgpt to translate Kiethoo’s rant into that of a southern belle writing to their beloved in a time of war made it 100% more entertaining.

My Dearest,

Oh, how my heart flutters at the very thought of you, but I must begin this letter with a little tale from the battlefield, though I fear it may be as mean and small as the skirmishes I’ve endured.

You see, I found myself wandering in Lavia’s Patience, caught up in the storm of Warmode. Now, I’m not one to fret much over the prospect of losing a fight—in truth, I find a certain delight in the chaos. But oh, beloved, there was a duel to remember! I tangled with a fierce 79 Ret and his Elemental friend, and we tussled, back and forth, from one quest to another, for what felt like hours. These fine gentlemen hailed from a guild by the most peculiar name—something about a “PvP Pizza Party.”

At first, I held my own, but soon enough, I reckon I vexed them terribly! I kept knocking them clean off a cliff’s edge, much to their dismay, until a third joined their ranks—a mighty Holy Pally, all dressed in the finest gear. Why, he must have had 8 million health points, if not more! Well, my sweet, it became a hopeless 3 versus 1, and I was but a lone soul in need of aid.

So, with hope in my heart, I called out in the chat, hoping someone might lend a hand. Normally, I’d turn to FLAK, but alas, I had no such blessing upon my hunter.

Now, I expected nothing but silence—heavens know, I’ve grown accustomed to it—but instead, I was met with responses from those MG folk, though their words were far from kind. Why, one of them had the gall to call me a “try-hard,” whatever that may be! Their refusal to fight alongside me stung, for I believe, if you’re to be in Warmode, you should be ready to assist, to stand your ground, and to fight with honor. Yet these souls, they seemed content to lurk in the shadows, seeking nothing but easy rewards.

Oh, how grateful I am for the brave hearts in FLAK! Without them, I fear we’d find no allies amidst the cowardice of Moon Guard’s Warmode.

I send you all my love, with hopes this letter finds you safe and sound.

Yours always,
Kiethoo

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I started WoW on a PvP server where were massively outnumbered by the Horde so I love being in Warmode especially for the initial leveling phase. I only ever left on Sho for the second half of Dragonflight bc for large new events they’re like barren wastelands which sucks.

Overall, I’m a big fan of Warmode. I also have been getting so many free bloody tokens and conquest so I’m a happy blue blob.

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Again nothing constructive to the conversation but here it is translated as a confused Borg who is also failing at assimilating a toaster:

Beginning transmission… processing… assimilation sequence initiated…

We are Borg. Initializing… confusion… beginning small wall of text regarding MG. Processing irrelevant designation. We were in Lavia’s Patience, questing in Warmode. Death is irrelevant. Resistance is futile. Engaging in combat protocols was… amusing. Fights commenced with unit 79 Ret and Elemental unit. Duration: one hour. Coordinates shifted. Multiple engagements. They were part of a collective… designation: PvP Pizza Party.

Additional combat logs: Units exhibited frustration when victory probability shifted. I, Borg, applied cliff-blasting tactical maneuver repeatedly. A third unit joined—a Holy Pally with approximately 8 million health points. Unit possessed high-tier armor, gear level unclear. Probability of victory as one versus three… diminished. Assimilation efficiency reduced. Requesting assistance via chat interface.

Tactical error: FLAK not installed on hunter-class drone. Attempt to solicit aid resulted in minimal response. Anticipated silence. Result: two communications from MG collective. Subjects claimed non-participation in PvP combat. Irrelevant excuse detected. One subject referred to me as “try-hard.” Processing… unknown term… potentially derogatory. Insulting. If in Warmode, all units must engage and assist. Compliance is mandatory.

Assessment: Failure of MG units to fight violates directive. They seek to acquire resources without engagement. Moon Guard collective exhibits cowardice. Why do they exist?

FLAK units are required for optimal resistance. Moon Guard’s Warmode collective is weak, non-compliant, irrelevant. End transmission. Toaster assimilation continues… confusion… device non-compliant. Re-calibrating…

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Gotta love WrA!

Leads one to wonder what a southern belle recently assimilated as a borg might have to say?

I don’t know about anyone else, I love the word vexed.

Cheers.

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I went for the funny response as opposed to the frightfully accurate one.

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One of the mods need to pin this to the top of the forums.

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Kiethoo needs to start talking like this ICly from now on. Bless his pea-picking heart.

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Im sending that to My questing partner Chonga :smiley:

Fun Fact the only people who tried to claim the reward for klling Xara were members of the Alliance. Who didn’t like him.

I never really considered him a leader of either faction to be honest, he sorta just appeared later on. I always saw Everwind, Mathraine*, Val* The NE warrior, and some of those other regulars are pvp alliance leaders.

Also it did urk me sometimes he would brag I couldn’t beat him 1 on 1 most of the time but I just had to remind myself that he stopped playing his warrior to play a Blood DK, and even then I could beat him before they nerfed healing by killing a Blood DK’s blood leeches.

Losing to VAL* all the time was another story, that guy was just maxed out gear, maxed out skill and destroyed me even when he didn’t have 5-10-20 stacks of resiliance or what ever it was called.

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I cannot help now but read every Kiethoo post in a southern belle voice, as she spins a parasol and pulls her crinoline over the juniper bushes.

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