PVP Addons making totems useless

Talking about Gladdy in particular.

Addons are making totems near useless and this addon is so widespread that it’s making shamans not fun to play at all in arena

For those that don’t know, Gladdy has a feature that puts giant plates on your totems and makes them targetable from quite a distance away. This makes totem sniping hilariously easy.

This need to go, I’m pretty over playing hide n go seek with my totems and it doesn’t get fixed till Wrath when stoneclaw shield comes in.

Weakauras and addons don’t need to be playing the game for us. DR trackers have already made rogue/mage an impossible comp to beat this expansion

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This has me wondering can you make a /target grounding /target tremor /target windfury /cast shoot macro? Just ordering the totems in reverse priority.

Guess you dont prob have to target grounding but you get the idea.

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Targeting macros and pet targeting macros do not work for totems, that was a change that was put in wrath pre-patch because warlock and hunter pets were sniping totems without any effort

Now it’s an addon that’s doing it.

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Its been a thing since they broke totem stomp macros in retail over a decade ago :man_shrugging:

And unlike totem stomp macros that automate killing totems, this just improves the interface. The interface shouldnt be an impediment or part of the “difficulty” of game play.

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Okay, but in this case it’s the only difficult thing about countering totems. Every druid at 1400mmr and above has rank1 moonfire bound, and having an addon that literally telegraphs exactly what totem it is and where it’s at only exacerbates the problem

And no, it’s only this expansion. This isn’t a problem in Wrath or Cataclysm, this wasn’t even a problem in Vanilla.

Every player just magically became pros at sniping totems, totally has nothing to do with an addon that every single arena player has

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I mean… this addon is from 2009. People started adjusting totem health bars for visibility literally immediately after the initial change. I want to kill a totem but I cant see it or click on it because the screen is cluttered is not a fun or interactive pvp element…

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/678713-Clean-Arena-Name-Plates-Totem-Icons-Pet-Disable-Options-v1-9-Now-Available!

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You can literally target these giant icons from behind pillars

I understand that you don’t like screen clutter as a PVP element, but this is hilariously dumb.

Totems are already easily counter-able and frustrating to PVP with, we don’t need an addon that makes it infinitely worst. Your “UI clutter” is our only utility outside of purge and lust

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Uhhh yeah this ain’t it. Good shamans know how to make totems incredibly annoying to kill in arena.

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I am not a good shaman, can you elaborate for me?

Doesn’t every name plate addon do this? I have Plater and it does this for totems from what I remember. I can make the name plate as big or as small as I like.

That doesn’t even require an addon. It’s part of the base UI.

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As a warlock main, i’m inclined not to lol

but simply put… put totem behind pillar/around corners. pets are horribly scripted and run in very stupid ways to go attack something, on top being quite slow

I guess I am not understanding what OP is complaining about then… If the base UI can do it, why complain that an addon does it?

You basically just said “Get gud” without elaborating any further. I’ve been 2k+ since week3 of the season, most shamans face the same exact problem

Totem stomping is fine, that’s part of the game. An addon that makes it way easier is the problem.

The default UI does literally nothing like what I linked at all.

I see this thread is now filled with people hiding on alts, should of known with any thread that includes PVP in the title

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Okay, as warlock how am i expected to have a chance versus warrior/shaman when you guys put the tremor behind the dumb skinny LOS pillar on the bottom level of blade’s edge if i can’t send my pet to kill it because it’s literally untargetable

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Because that’s literally the only place we can place our tremor totem. Even then we have to go out of our way to place it there, while enemy team gets to set up and even push the shaman before we can place all totems down.

Also, on Nagrand no one ever rushes the shaman pillar as they sit at their side and make the other team to to them so that the shaman has to redrop.

No, you can place your totem at the top of the ramp if you fight on bottom, you can place it around any of the large pillars.

Even if it gets sniped you have shock, grounding, another tremor, and a teammate to make sure you don’t get feared.

Shaman’s issues in arena aren’t due to the fact that people are actually able to kill your totems, its the fact that you can barely heal without casting

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Blade’s edge is the only arena where we can abuse totem placements, and even doing that we have to set-up beneath the arena which puts you in the worst possible map positioning.

You still don’t need an addon this absurd because of one situation because you shouldn’t be ever sending your pet below blade’s edge in the first place against sham/warrior

I’m not here to talk about Shaman’s issues in arena, this is solely about totem sniping addons

Shamans have plenty of issues in TBC PVP, in which most of them get addressed in Wrath fortunately

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Any nameplate addon can also do this, I’m sniping totems with rank 1 moonfire all day and that aint changing.

I really don’t know.

Every addon function is available in the base UI, add-ons simply make it easier to access them.