You would think people would use LFG to improve their own keys?
Do you really not comprehend how mythic plus progression works?
You farm zeros to get gear.
With that gear you farm your keys to all plus 5s.
You upgrade your gear with valor.
Now you upgrade your gear to time al at 10
You upgrade via valor
You repeat the process for 15s.
Maybe if people put effort in instead of asking for free gear.
Just because people are too lazy doesn’t mean the system doesn’t have progression.
Getting invited to +14 is a long process especially for Casuals. Everyone has to start low.
When I reached level 60, I was just starting Mythic 0 when the elites were already doing M+5s. I tried to apply for M+5s and I get denied and I understand becoz I was already struggling to beat M+0.
So I paused for awhile, got my legendary first and more practice runs on Heroic to understand some mechanics. After getting my legendary, I aimed to get M+2s on all 8 dungeons. That gave me a decent rio score for beginners. Then I aimed for M+5s on all 8 dungeons. And then I climb one or 2 key every other week. After 21 weeks, I reached +14s. A bit slow but it’s progressing. It is extremely slow becoz I am doing it all on Dungeon Finder with PuGs. Playing with PuGs is always handicapped as someone in the group needs to be carried. Fine. That’s how it is to be done.
21 weeks of pushing led me to M+14s… It gave me access to ilevel 226 loots on weekly vault… You can now see me at ilevel 223. That’s progression. Compare this to a Casual who got scared to do dungeons. He is still ilevel 200 for the last 21 weeks.
What would he do?
Buy KSM carry - 8x M+15 dungeon carry? That’s around $300. You would get KSM but you would only get 8x ilevel 207 gear plus 1x ilevel 226 from Vault. Your total gear level would be around ilevel 208. $300 for ilevel 208? LOL. And you still cant do M+14 with that gear and of course, cant stand on your own as you would pull down M+14 group to fail. And those who scan your RIO, they will just expose you that you were carried. You would be bullied becoz many would perceive carry as CHEATING. Well, good luck.
That’s what I was referring to as a “carry.” The boost was referring to a paid carry. In the end, it’s pretty much the same deal. This is why I quit responding to that person. You can’t reason with them. In their mind, it’s perfectly reasonable for someone who took the trouble to work their key up to a 14 to happily carry a player who doesn’t want to time anything. Never mind that no one with an ounce of consideration would want to burden someone who’s working hard to push their key with a chill, untimed run that is going to downgrade that key.
Suck it the hell up people. M (Massively) M (MULTIPLAYER) O (Online) RPG is the genre of the game. There is absolutely no reason to have solo content in an MMO, and honestly, single player content should either be there to support the down-time of not having people to co-op with, or it shouldn’t be there at all. This isn’t Fable. Go play Dragon Age or something if you’re expecting solo content, that’s not what this game should’ve ever been about.
Mage tower was fun. 5-mask visions solo was fun, and tc8 was fun to get solo. Ive been able to 4 star the new torghast layer 9 so far solo. All of that was done in wq gear. I haven’t raided in years and never have done a single m+.
I probably wouldn’t stick around if it wasn’t for challenging solo content.
Interesting thing is ive been declined to every single torghast ive ever apped to since the beginning. I dont know if its the lack of io or low gear level, but I’ll keep soloing np. If you play alliance during the day and want to do some runs let me know.
Of pushing timers. Which is my point. The current progression is locked behind timed content. Here’s the difference between FFXIV and WoW that’s causing everyone to defect over to FFXIV:
One system rewards you for helping out your buddy. The other system actively punishes the helpful guy and rewards the toxic player who has no qualms about degrading their buddy’s key.
And for anyone who tells me to go play FFXIV, then: I’m currently doing just that. I’m camping rare gathering node spawns so that I can farm the scrips required to unlock even rarer nodes as well as good crafting gear. They have a beautiful system that lets you progress gathering through gathering and crafting through crafting. Contrast that with the mess we had in BFA where you unlocked your crafting recipes by running a raid a bunch of times and the progression to unlock those recipes was 10x faster in a Mythic raid than in LFR. WoW wasn’t always raid or die to that extent.
Why would the carrier would use his own key to carry his buddy? The Carrier would carry his buddy using his buddy’s key. And the carrier would go on to use his key with other players that dont need carry. And in time, the carried buddy would catch up and soon they would play together on higher keys.
I dont know. That activity is like similar to Korthia Rare/Treasure Hunting or Assault in Maw Activity. It looks trivial to me. I prefer competitive content… competitive progression. Reaching M+15 is somewhat far more competitive than just doing dailies/farming duties in which the difficulty is fixed. If you are soft, it’s your money to play any game convenient to you. I dont want Blizz to nerf Mythic+. I even want it harder. I am not saying Mythic+ is all hard. There’s easy ones … those on lower key. But the difficulty goes higher as the loots become stronger and stronger.
And I’m sure you’ll get your preference because that’s all Blizzard cares about these days: competition. You’re not casual. You’re competitive. That’s what Blizzard is pushing on us these days. Not cooperation, but competition. Hence this topic.
And that’s why modern WoW is good as it is Casual friendly. You dont need to do 24/7 grind to reach KSM or AoTC. That level is already competitive to many. Competitive gaming with less play time rendered. Modern WoW is making people with less play time badazz as long as you are skilled.
I prefer this over doing long hours of play time need to be rendered doing trivial stuffs to get his prize. Long hours is more required than skill. That’s how i perceive FF14.
If you want to gear up by using skill, play WoW. If you want to gear up using long hours with not that much skill, play FF14.
That’s how I see this. Sorry, I would prefer WoW since I am just Casual with less play time but not a noob.
Oh no casuals can upgrade gear to 233 and buy 230 crafted gear all from open world content, how dare blizzard its so punishing. Blizzard are such jerks for his punishing and insane grind how awful better quit and play ff14 so I can erp with other cat girls
Why can’t bad players just be bad in peace? Why do they have to not only ruin all our in-game groups because they can’t even do a dungeon without costing us, but then they come to the forums and spam it with whiny bad player bs and how it’s blizz’s fault they are terrible at the game.
gets so annoying. Just be quiet and suck in peace plz
bro its not cat girls its bunnies smh get your weeb fax right. there’s also no girls on FF14, it’s all male crunchyroll subs
Naw dude I play a dragon girl and 100% have been asked to erp by multiple cat girls lmao def gave me and my friends quite the laugh
What are you talking about? In FFXIV you don’t even need KSM to get good endgame loot rewards out of dungeons and/or to farm the tomestones that you can use to buy those. You just run your dungeons and buy your gear, just like we did back in WotLK. As for AoTC, they don’t even bother with that nonsense in FFXIV because they don’t hate their players. The special cosmetics are only available in Ultimate content, and the gear and player level always scales down in there so that you can’t outgear/outlevel it.
Sucks that you’re being punished. It’s like they slapped you in the face huh?
In some regards you could say that they are catering to the competitive type who wants to spend as less time in the game as possible but where does the anti solo bit come from?
I feel there is plenty to do keep busy with as a mostly solo player. Sure I’d love an M0 queue though.
so what do you exactly do back in classic/vanilla after you get bis in dungeon. OH yea that’s right YOU RAID. So who’s in denial now?
so question for you. How exactly did the said person get the +14 key when he’s the 1st one to get the key? He can’t really pay anyone because noone has a +14 key yet
So what do you do back in Classic/Vanilla to get pre-raid BiS? It’s certainly not timed content!
They keep going back and forth with this circular logic. You don’t have to time content because you can just get carried. You don’t have to get carried because you can just use your key. It really defies reason.