The Sub Rogue changes in legion were designed to make the spec more inclusive to a wider audience as confirmed by tablet pruner.
But as we have seen it drove away the core players of the spec.
What are covenants supposed to do? Are new players going to off set the loss of veteran players that don’t see the point of locking their choices? I am not seeing the math add up. 
In what way is this a good system? Why do you think I want to deal with their weeks long grind to get back into a covenant that I already had? Why do you think I want to deal with their weeks long grind when it gets hit with a balance pass? Please explain how any of this makes -my- gameplay more fun?
Which part of losing garrote makes it more inclusive?!
The strategy here for me is to recuperate those Classic players with many design that seems to be targeted at them. But there’s so much systems, I don’t see how someone that likes Classic often because there’s no systems would like this.
I beg to differ. with SL, each component of the conduit/soulbind system will be subject to individual changes, possibly on a weekly basis when launch hits. And then throughout the tier. BFA had a fairly limited stack of differentiated data to sift through. A set number of traits, a set number of stats… The main thing people were looking for was the ilvl difference (was a 450 Harlan’s better than a 460 dead-eye spyglass) type thing.
This system, looks more nightmarish by comparison. I could be wrong, and I am open and hoping so. But it is following a terrible trend.
It could be, but the lack of titanforging leads me to believe it likely won’t be as bad.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if I was wrong about that, though.
The part where they went with the shadow ninja fantasy in legion and they pruned shadow step from the spec. Great game design haha.
What is more shadowy ninja than shadow step? I have no clue.
In systemlands Bone Spike lets Rogues role play that they are better death knights by applying a permanent DoT at range. So much for class fantasy and stopping homogenization. 
I would of rather they would of brought forward the ability to upgrade gear via valor. It felt more rewarding then the WF/TF slot machine
Rat’s spin again
Oh man, I still remember that original pass of sub rogue. It makes the terrible version we have now look like a Reckful (RiP) video.
You current sub players don’t even know.
Atleast I’m gettiing shadow step with door of shadows.
Wait this uniqueness design is actually homogenization
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I almost wonder if this expansion would get less or more hate if Blizzard added no new abilities. No new systems. Nothing new outside of dungeons/raids.
people would still have a cow i’m sure.
I mean, I would have prefer if they did this from Legion to BFA. I don’t know about BFA tho, it’s bfa you know. It’s already putting the bar low to just ask for Shadowlands to be better than BFA, but with all they’re doing I’m wondering if that’s a challenge they accepted.
Yes. Also they are clueless of the consequences of making a change. In 8.3 Rising Mist was changed from extending hots by 2 seconds to 4 seconds, and the top Mistweavers went from doing 150k HPS to 700k HPS with 50% overhealing.
So basically yeah, if you think Blizzard understands how to balance the covenants, you are wrong.
Press “X” to doubt.
personal opinion: There would be more hate.
Feeeeeeel the power of rental systems. Bow down to your new meta overlords.
I wonder how this expansion would be received if they gave all the classes more permanent power that is tied to their class instead of a handful of random dead girls’ clubs.
Same or more, considering the sorry state of classes.
The lack of a borrowed power system would be generally praised, the lack of class innovation would be criticized as BFA classes are terrible.
Yeah, let me grow another arm too while we at it so I can push more buttons.
Why is Shrek narrating this video?
The worst part of EVERY expack since WoD has been the SAME thing: Borrowed Power Systems.
Fight Me.