Cata reforging came into the fold because of soft caps/diminishing returns like hit and expertise.
BlizZard is reintroducing these soft caps/diminishing returns in the next expansion while refusing to bring back reforging.
Makes no sense to me! 
You’re the one foaming out the mouth about a joke being an insult, you tell me.
Reforging would have been nice to have during the whole titanforging problem of the last four to five years.
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I’m not a mythic raider anymore. I haven’t even done a single boss in Nya. Not LFR, not normal, not heroic, not mythic. I don’t want my player power locked behind covenants. Why am I wrong?
I don’t think anything except the removal of titanforging could have solve titanforging. It’s design is lazy and too much rng.
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Just a reminder that spamming these threads over and over cultivates the pettiness that is occurring in this thread. Its part of the core reason why creating duplicate threads is frowned upon; people who like to engage in reasonable debate got bored with this a dozen iterations ago and now the “discussion” is just being had by people trolling and name-calling each other.
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Oh, you’re absolutely right, but we lost reforging during a time where it would have totally softened the blow.
Reforging would have been a nice counter balance to titanforge system. The titanforge system stated goal according to BlzZard was to make ilevel king and for even casual players to have some pieces of powerful gear progression by keeping content relevant far longer than normal.
Without a reforge system the tertiary states have fallen by the wayside because the focus now becomes more on secondary stats than tertiary stats or even raw ilevel of a titanforge.
no. No. NO. reforging would have magnified the problem in this expack.
Be a mage. Fire. Mastery is your stat. Every peice has it, except the one that doesn’t… but has a STUPID high amount of a stat you can reforge.
Grats, you are now 125% mastery before corruption.
No.
All though, with TF going away, and secondary stat scaling DR, reforging might actually not be a terrible idea.
What’s preventing you from doing what you want?
If they wanted to make ilvl king, then they should revert the mainstat nerfs from WoD.
They removed the AP/SP per point and removed the crit from agi and intel, and wonder why secondary stats took over, like honestly - do they even do basic analysis with these things over there?
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The covenants being locked is what’s preventing me from doing what I want. What I want to do is experiment with builds and play around with things in Torghast and maybe M+. Why am I wrong?
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They even removed the extra dodge from agility because it was not homogenized with other classes.
Rogues went from valuing agility/attack power to…secondary stats. Not surprising.
When a discussion is a hot topic it’s normal that multiple threads happen, but yes sure it’s annoying if done by the same people. But seeing as this thread got more than 700+ answers I’d say it’s serving it’s purpose. And the name calling so far, has been kept pretty low I think. But, you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs.
I’m still mad about subtlety.
Legion straight up ruined my most favorite spec in the game.
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It’s a side effect of the sim-culture, in a way. Blizzard is probably making the excuse (internally) that sims will tell players what they need to know day one.
Which is a scary proposition. The systems needs so much iteration now, and the cooldown should, in my opinion, be the first thing to be reduced/redone.
I have 2 friends in the same boat as you. They loved combat for trash, sub for bosses…both hard swapped off Rogue in Legion. One went DH, one went Monk.
Unless this has changed, I can’t run sims as a healer. So Blizzard is punishing me because they want to punish people who sim their systems? Azerite had # happens when you do things. We had no idea how often things procced, how the completely passive crap affected anything, which is what made sims required. I realize you’re probably not arguing against me, but Blizzard created sim culture.
Blizzard is partly to blame here, with all the overlaid systems in BFA. There were so many things that could drastically hinder or increase your DPS, that sims became even more valuable than ever before.
SL probably won’t be -as- bad as BFA there, but it will still be a big thing if it launches as-is.
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There’s nothing stopping you from doing that. You can experiment with all four if you want and then choose the Covenant you want to stick with. The week lockout only gets incurred whenever you try to rejoin a Covenant you had already pledged to.
Conduits and soulbind loadouts are locked out and are not able to be saved on a per-spec basis, so you are punished pretty hard just for swapping specs in your one covenant.
Once again, you should research things before speaking as if you have any idea what you’re talking about.