#PullTheRipcord Blizzard, the flaws of Covenants have already been exposed

It isn’t necessary for mount collectors to have more than one mount.

It isn’t necessary for transmog fans to have more than one outfit.

It isn’t necessary for raiders to equip upgrades from the raid.

The list goes on and on of things that aren’t necessary yet people still want to do them.

Your goal is different than other peoples goal. The sooner you realize that the better. While bare minimum completion might be your goal, you cannot apply that to everyone else.

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And yet, even after that they were still the same class

Yup, ranged surv vs. melee surv. Totally the same… Same rotation, same everything… everyone is happy…

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Fun part about your argument is that a spec is something you can freely swap around to avoid being left in the dust due to imbalance. Covenants are not. Seems like you agree with our side of things more than you think.

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Because I’ve always been optimal for over 15 years? Just one reason, I don’t know.

Yes. If I don’t like the changes to shadow I can freely swap to… holy. Totally the same. Fills exactly the same roll. I’ll never notice the difference!

And locking covenants does what to solve your issue other than make it even harder on you to spec swap even if you wanted to heal?

You are conflating issues with spec balance with issues with locking covenants.

Uhh, no you haven’t. You have been able to set up your character to be as good/ as optimal as possible, given the limitations of your class and spec. That is different and covenants won’t change that.

If I swap from shadow to disc, I don’t get covenant abilities? Oh, that seems bad.

Uhhh, yes I have lol. Just because you haven’t been doesn’t mean the rest of us haven’t.

Mount collection is a system in the game.

Transmog is a system in the game.

Raids and gear are systems in the game.

You’re talking about something completely different that honestly doesn’t matter in the least. You don’t have to be fully optimized to engage in any of those systems. You don’t have to be fully optimized to push a key, you don’t have to be fully optimized to climb the arena ladder, and you don’t have to be fully optimized to clear a mythic raid. I might be wrong about that last one-- I’m not going to bother digging through all the data, either, so go nuts jumping on it.

Locking Covenants doesn’t solve a single issue in the game. Neither does locking classes, races, or faction. It presents constraints for the player to work within to achieve their own goals.

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I genuinely do not know how many times it has to be said to you that optimizations (which, btw, is not the only argument against locking covenants. Many people just want to be able to experiment and swap for fun as very few of us are masochists) are something people WANT to do not something they HAVE to do

You keep saying HAVE to as if that is what anybody is arguing.

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Correct. And those constraints from locking covenants, just like RNG legendaries, expensive azerite reforge costs, limited azerite traits on armor, permanent azerite traits, essence grinds, corription RNG, and so on are going to be at the mercy of player feedback.

Three of those are completely different from the forth.

Can we design the game around my wants, then, so I can solo all of Orgrimmar with a fishing pole and proclaim myself the new Warchief?

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People have asked for faction restriction to be removed. They argue it needlessly separates the player base. That they are “forced” to go x faction to be competitive.

People have argued the same for server restrictions.

If it were about your individual wants, sure.

But this is a large portion of the entire community. Not just one or two people.

I haven’t taken a census, but I’d say a large portion of the community also likes the idea of Covenants being a commitment.

It’s sure coincidence that what he wants is just him. But what you want is always a “large portion of the community.”

And if enough people would want it, Blizzard would probably do it. Havint isn’t asking to freely swap their race or class like you initially suggested.[quote=“Samtaya-wyrmrest-accord, post:685, topic:611031”]
I’d say a large portion of the community also likes the idea of Covenants being a commitment.
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Could be. Fun thing about that is unlocking them doesn’t stop you from commiting to one so your gameplay would be unaffected if that’s what YOU really wanted.

But realistically, all of this is probably more about you hoping others don’t get what they want than it is about you getting what you want.