Seriously, what is going on with Monks?
Is the plan to silently discontinue them?
I just returned to WoW kinda recently and was planning to main a Mistweaver this expansions but they’ve had nothing but silence…
The big update that we’ve been holding out for(if there was to be one) was supposed to have been today, according to blue text, yet, nothing but MORE silence.
DO NOT PULL THE MONK CORD! its the only thing keeping their pants up.
It’s getting a little late.
Even if they posted a new build of changes today it would likely be too late to test them.
I think the poor Monks have been more than patient, while calmly providing tons of excellent and reasonable feedback.
It’s time to flip tables.
If I quite again, I’m gonna make it known.
Hell, I just recently got back from the last time I quit when Ion told me he would rather me not main Demonology back in WoD.
I’ll deal with near anything except laziness/negligence on class design.
WW and MW fixes now! We need an overhaul! Fix our masteries!
I’m seriously considering switching to Monk in SL. I mean, I want to but damn Blizz. Why is MW bugged at every turn? Do you just care that little about Monks? Every video I watch says that nothing works. How can you expect to get any proper beta testing in when nothing is hooked up properly?
And WW seems like an unloved dps spec
Monk and Archaeology are both getting on the bus to visit First Aid in Shadowlands.
It was supposed to be last week. This is another week of them not doing anything. They cannibalize our class and cant come up with a good idea to make them fun again.
After Ions post today I can tell where the bad influence on the dev team is coming from.
Brewmaster is the only spec they care about. Ww is basically abandoned and Mw is the worst raid healer and their m+ big pull healing nieche was nerfed into oblivion with the SCK target cap. Now they’re considered the 4th best m+ healer. Overall that’s a pretty rough place. Soothing mist is a useless trap, the mastery doesn’t do anything for many of our heals nor does it affect vivify cleave. I want to play MW here because I like it but it’s so hard to justify.
Just make SEF not but and I’ll be happy.
Another pathetic expansion for monks.
We kind of already knew that monk was going to be ignored. I think the big update they talked about was the horrible Chi-Ji change. Not sure if any1 here has tested the new Chi-Ji, but its pretty terrible. Being that it is now tied to our mastery makes it not great. We need to stack mastery for it to decently heal AND it isn’t even smart healing. You might gain mana over the 25sec but in the end it isn’t smart healing. The stupid bird is healing people at 95% health over people who have 30% health.
I was on the beta trying to do a dungeon and decided to test Chi-Ji. The stupid bird wouldn’t even heal the tank who needed the healing. You can put Enveloping Mist on the tank but that just isn’t enough. Chi-Ji healing needs to be smart heal or it just won’t work in dungeons. In 8.3 we could use Way of the Crane in mythic+ but only if there was a massive pull. This is form of healing is now gone.
Jade Statue change is so awful feeling it isn’t even funny. The statue only casts for 8sec. Its annoying to press the useless soothing mist button. Also the statue should proc our Mastery. It doesn’t interact with mastery at all.
Our mastery doesn’t really work with us. When you try to utilize the double mastery effect on essence font it just doesn’t work. By the time essence font is done casting the person is near or full health so the mastery proc from a vivify is useless. I just don’t understand why its so hard for blizzard to change our mastery. Our vivify cleaves don’t even work with the mastery. The vivify problem annoys me the most. Our mastery works with almost none of our kit so its hard to justify stacking mastery for chi-Ji.
Essence Font is useless healing in itself. The healing is too spread out for it to be meaningful. Essence font either needs to be cut back in healing, OR as others say, the target cap needs to go from 10 to 5targets while doing the same amount of healing.
Rising Mist: Could be a great talent with Chi-Ji but is being held back. The talent should add 6sec to our hots while keeping the cap at 150% or even 200%. This would allow Rising mist to work better with lower amounts of haste.
Upwelling: What a boring talent…omg. Keep it for the scrub monks who don’t like fistweaving.
Thunder Focus Tea: Could be a great talent but wont be because it can’t be balanced with the other talents.
Rushing Jade Wind: This talent is doing nothing with our mastery. Make it interact with our mastery somehow.
Mana Tea: Off the GCD which is great. IDK why this is a talent still. It should be baseline like Innervate. Especially mana tea because monks are mana hungry 24/7.
Mana: Our mana costs are so freaking high. We have the worst mana problems out of all the healers.
Our first talent row: Meh! Chi Burst is cool but is almost always taken. Chi wave is a really cool ability but hasn’t been taken for awhile.
Why can’t we get uplift back?? It was a great ability that never needed to be cut. Along with getting rid of Chi as a monk. Why wouldn’t a monk have Chi??? It would be like taking combo points from a rogue.
WindWalker monks have their own problems which are pretty easy to solve. This is how I know Blizzard is ignoring monks. WW doesn’t even need a overhaul but needs a few bugs to be fixed and WDP to be baseline. Tigereye Brew should be brought back and most monks say this and pretty sure the devs know this by now. Delete SEF
There’s no class identity for MW/WW anymore. WW has lost its class identity to DH and MW is a broken down Hpriest/Rdruid. At least BRM is still doing good. How much longer before they gut BRM.
Edit:
I just saw the nerfed Chi-Ji LOL. They nerfed it into the ground!
Holy Cow!
Changed from 2min to 3min CD.
Also only heals 2 people. lol what a joke
This entire Alpha/Beta process has honestly been very disheartening from a WW perspective.
Aside from the bugs, there’s also no change to the talent selection that we’ve been picking since Legion. Basically the first 3 rows are flavor choices with no change to gameplay or rotation. You have the dance of chi-ji now that might compete with combo strikes for aoe, but other than that, the last talent row is locked in and the others don’t matter much.
The fact that we got a blue post 2 weeks ago that told us to be on the lookout, and the following week we got a legendary item tuning and 15 seconds off of paralysis, and this week radio silence, is making me very nervous about what monk is going to look like for the next expac.
Summon a blue post! O_o
mass exodus of the monks 
They nerfed both specs which weren’t even good to begin with. Especially MW. lol
What do you mean? BrM and MW got some good ol nerfs, isnt that what everyone has been clamoring for? No?
You shut your heathen mouth! Archeology will never die! You hear me God??? NEVER!!!
Our “big change” was SEF being taken off the GCD. Hit combo is still in the game, 3/4 of our covenant abilities still don’t work properly, WDP is still a talent in a horrible talent tier where the other 2 options are dead talents. WW particularly is just being ignored. No talent changes since april. I’m just so demoralized.
for my own sake I hope it never does, archeology is good money when you can sell the rare collectables to the lazy bums
The dominant Raid tank, “plan to silently discontinue them”. Like what dude ?