Needle in a haystack dude.
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Itâs not a surprise anymore, some players expect differing amounts from others with no real social bond. The âwe are in this togetherâ dose not exist in WOW over all. That is why most people run raids with guild or friends and same for mythics.
In a pug you mean nothing to others and for most of it your an NPC.
Now the Mixed Pugs pulling people in as a filler to their raid runs can be the same. your an outsider and they have a bond your not part of.
It sucks but itâs just how the game has beenâŚ
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Yup 2 needles in that very large haystack once or twice a weekâŚ
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My question is thisâŚWHERE are all these obnoxioâs playing the game to begin with?
I cant see a real raiding guild letting people who are this irritating run raids with themâŚso are they rejects? I mean, did they try to get into a guild, get exposed for the miserable person they are, then booted?
It seems like all the good playersâŚwell mostâŚend up in a guild, and stay there, and PUGS are left with the table scraps for the most part.
Itâs a matter of getting lucky, not looking for the right people. Other than the ignore feature, youâre left to deal with anyone you invite, which could go either way.
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I see a few Guilds pug 1 or 2 slots as fillers on raid nights. Not as much as in BFA. Also Some use them as an interview process before they except people into the guild.
its like a new version of the Dragon System used for loot in the dayâŚ
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Honestly, I can see why guilds would be very selective.
Not only do I want competent players, I also dont want to play with spoiled Timmy eitherâŚI cant imagine guilds want the drama anymore than anyone else would
Thereâs 2 types of pug groups. Toxic and nice
First week of 9.1 I got onto a pug raid group. we nuked all the bosses till pain in one shot. Most amount of people that died to a boss was 3, most of the time none died
The tank and leader knew the fights and explained them (they were on the pre test servers). They also linked YouTube vids that explained the fights that everyone watched. We were all willing to listen and ask questions. Was prob the best pug I have ever had. It only ended caz people had to go to sleep and work
So yer, some pugs are epic. Sadly alot arnt. Be it toxic people, the gogogo people or the people that blow up when something/one stuffs up by mistake
You canât be this dense. Stop.
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The âwhat is Toxicâ need to be really defined. Most people see an M+ group just disbanding after failing to kill the 1st trash pack 2 times as toxic.
Or being kicked from a raid cause you doing less DPS then a healer or a tank that pull the map before the healer is even logged in.
The big one is most constructive criticism is viewed as toxic now.
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The only toxicity I experience is on the forums 99% of the time. Yâall must seek dumbos out tbh.
Some toxic behavior just for youâŚ
YOUR WRONG !!!
99.99%
do not ask to fight 10 people please
Soooo your ONE experience should be passed off as fact? LMAO!!!
Itâs always the same people that are mad.
Constantly.
About everything.
What is WoW?
Oh baby, donât hurt me
Donât hurt me
No more
You have to ask the question on what is toxic, someone could have tried to help with his rotation for all we knowâŚ
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Glad you found a great group. People will find excuses for their shortcomings no matter what you do.
I hate that word, lol.
Its as abused as the race and bigot card are. Someone doesnt like somethingâŚdoesnt have a competent argumentâŚits racist/bigoted/toxic. 
Ive gotten to the point where I just tune out anyone using any of the âcardsâ anymore.
Failing in my mind is fine. Its part of every gameâŚeverything that requires any competence or skill. Its no reason to pop a cork or get toxic over.
Im more âtoxicâ over the state of this game, something Im paying for every month. Not over someone making a mistake.
I do think in that timed content crap I can see why theyd be pushing for more DPS. But in my mind that is one reason why the content should be removed. It creates an environment that creates the âtoxicâ behavior. âŚor at least it brings it out more into the open. âcreatesâ was a poor word to use. âexposesâ would be more accurate.
agreed.
Cant tell little Timmy that hes wrong.
Cant tell Ion that his game is getting worse by the expansion.
Its all âtoxicâ now, lmao
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seriously has the word WAR in it⌠we just forgot what we are fighting forâŚ
Time to go kill the Discount Thanos now