I cannot fathom how you can seriously argue it is not about HPH.
Again, I really wish they would make all the changes you keep blaming your loss rate on, just to put it to rest.
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of course horde with argue against thatâŚ
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You mean the cave Rez that Iâm blaming?
You know the same one you admitted to being a huge horde advantage??
Still so dumb as to think this isnt completely a map issueâŚ
hopefully they changed AV so alliance can be proven wrong
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I admit only that it should not be working the way it currently does. The rest is your fluff.
It is the identical map that was used up until reinforcements in TBC. At which time alliance started to lose more (they had been winning the majority until then), prompting the change.
Hopefully it will be changed so that this can all be put to rest.
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Let me ask you this then.
How long on average does it take Horde to take SHGY??
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Dude, go do your ad nausium argument with someone else. I am just sick of hearing it.
I support blizzard making your desired changes. Not because it would make an ounce of difference, but only to stop the excuse making. Not that I have any doubt that new excuses will be invented.
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Maybe you knew where I was going with that question which is why youâre afraid to answer it.
Donât worry, it takes horde on Average 30 minutes or so to cap SHGY.
Now imagine if at SHGY we Rez 20 at a time instead of the 10, how long would it take then??
Itâs not my âfluffâ or imagination, you simply win because of the horde cave Rez, and thatâs it.
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It has been answered numerous times. You do not like the answer.
And there is no excuse for alliance losing that fight.
There is no excuse for alliance losing that fight.
The âhuge horde advantageâ is your fluff.
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I wasnât asking others opinions I was asking your opinion on when you thought SHGY is finally capped by horde. We both know itâs around 30-40 minutes. I like that answer perfectly fine.
Unlike you we canât Zug Zug into 1 graveyard all game l, we actually have to play defense and offense, unlike the horde. So yes eventually we lose the SHGY fight because we canât win at SHGY. Not like you know what it means to not have to just zerg 1 graveyard all game.
If it took you 30-40 minutes to take it with 10 rezing, imagine 20, bit youâre still at an advantage here once again, because you know you donât actually need to defend IBGY, you can just 40 man zerg 1 graveyard, unlike Alliance who has to defend and Attack to win.
The huge horde advantage is there, you keep lying about it or voicing your opinion, I present all data as far as the Rez points for IBGY and the cave Rez. You present opinion.
Canât wait when arena ranking are in the game, so horde pros like you canât hide anymore. We will see whoâs good and who has been hiding behind their cave Rez.
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Sorry you are too dumb to understand basic map balance that has been explained numerous times in very simple terms.
You keep bringing up history when people were god awful at the game and people didnt have nearly the same distribution of information. However in TBC when horde started defending they started winning. Reinforcements change nothing about the map just that it ends quicker.
So by your own admission before they moved the GY it was massively in favor of the horde. Guess what map we are on now.
Hell even AFTER the map was changed because it favored horde too much it still needed another balance to buff Alliance defense because post GY change the map still favors horde.
However not a single person on these forums has given a legit strategy for Alliance to take the IBGY considering horde Reinforce 3x as fast as Alliance if the horde opt to defend.
But please deflect with more nonsense that is irrelevant because nowhere on the map does Alliance have anything even remotely close to that defensive point and the ice lord is summoned behind a cliff on the horde side of the FoS so is very easy to summon since the equilibrium point for Reinforcement is north of that point, where as the tree is summoned in the most open succeptiple area south of the equilibrium point making it much harder to summon.
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I really hope the Damage and Healing in BG scoreboards is true.
Iâm of mixed opinion on this oneâŚ
A 4th bag slot isnât authentic to the Vanilla experience. On that side Iâm kinda âEhhhâŚâ about it. That kinda âmehâ, unenthusiastic feeling thatâs hard to describe with words.
On the other hand, if it gets more people to use the authenticator which will, in turn, reduce the likelihood of their accounts getting compromised, theoretically resulting in fewer bots⌠on that aspect I like it.
Mixed opinion, to be sure.
Alliance wins are so rare there is no âpossibly winningâ.
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I cant wait for AV changes to be made, then alliance continue to lose every game. Wonder what the next scapegoat will be.
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Correction, I would just stop playing. If they make classic more like a game I donât enjoy, I wouldnât play something else that is even less enjoyable.
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I literally watched close to a dozen alliance WEST of Balinda, just milling about to snipe horde that came up that way. They never made the slightest attempt to go south, even though almost every single horde member was north of them at SH. So donât give me that âwe canât zugzugâ BS. Alliance could have EASILY taken SF and pushed the horde back on their heels.
I repeatedly present the fact that alliance won a more AVs during vanilla with the identical map.
Good luck, because I wonât be there, as TBC was luke warm homoginized garbage that I have no intention of repeating.
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Cliff? What âcliffâ?
I appreciate that you wrote this immediately after calling ME dumb.
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Itâs almost as if you chose to ignore anything anyone says.
Are you sure you played AV in actual vanilla??
If you did you would understand why Alliance won back then. Itâs been said numerous times on almost every AV thread, including a few times by me, who actually played vanilla.