PTR teases for Goblin and Arathi patch

Nah, Gadetzan in lore is still standing, and it is a huge mega city. A flying goblin city is needed with magi-tech, goblin shamans and oils all mixed into one.

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It’s also perhaps worth considering that at the end of the quests in the niffen village, Gazlowe expresses an intent to ask the local Venture Co. Leader about Undermine.

So it may be that since being driven out by the Cataclysm, the Venture Co. are the first cartel to successfully begin reclaiming the city (perhaps with the aid of some less than benevolent agencies), and whenever we someday go there, it might revolve around helping the Bilgewater, Steamwheedle and other goblin cartels take it back.

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More interested in details about the crystal, honestly. Maybe the Arathi will get up to something interesting, but I feel like the goblins will largely just be there to justify a quest hub with some Venture Co. to fight.

Undermine deserves a proper introduction as real city not at glorified quest dunk.

You realize the only cities that get full-blown capital city assets any more are neutral expansion hubs, right?

Even the “real cities” like Orgrimmar and Stormwind are basically obsolete other than their portal rooms now, since every new main expansion hub gets the full suite of amenities, including the Trade Post as of TWW (and at this point even more than that, since not even the old world capitals have Rostrums of Transformation.)

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A goblin flying city can be neutral. Gadetzan is in the lore.

Undermine is a goblin city that makes it Horde. Just like Mechagon became alliance.

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Goblins aren’t only horde. The undermine didn’t belong only to the bilgewater cartel.

And lore wise, every city is visitable.

Goblins are only Horde. Alliance can’t play them. And Gazlowe started to form a union with the other big cartel. Stop stealing Horde stuff blue team. You look greedy.

We aren’t talking about game mechanics here, we are talking about lore. And lore wise, goblins are vastly more neutral. Hence why a lot of them are also in the SI:7

And forming a union is not the same as turning horde. All in all, goblins should have been more like the pandas, a neutral group.

ONE Goblin works there. ONE. Steamwheedle cartel is one of the two big ones, and they will work with the Bilgewater which is the other big cartel. The signs are there. Undermine will soon wave red banners. And all goblins will be united in the Horde like all dwarfs are aliance. It is a shame Horde always gets only side factions and neevr a full on race. Goblins been Horde allies since the second war. Same as ogres and trolls.

Lol whatever you say. I know better to even talk to you about lore. Completely pointless.

No I just refuse to be sidelined again as Hordie. I want all my races on my team. Not just fringes of it. That includes former neutral races and sub factions. I mean all gnomes and dwarves are alliance now it is time to show some fairness here. It is about damm time those Steamwheedle cities all over Azeroth show their colors. I Mean afterall Gazlowe joined despite being from Ratschet.

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Whatever your wildest dreams can conjure. Just don’t get mad when It doesn’t happen.

You mean after the alliance got handfed all the fanservice cheese for years? Surley the Horde asking for their part of the cake is the problem somehow.

Sure sure, alliance gets everything, horde is dung. I got it. Keep beating that drum.

Let us see the races that joined alliance so far.

dwarves: all three clans are in
gnomes: Gnomeregan and Mechagon reunited
humans: all human nations that aren’t somehow defunt are in(4 kingdoms in total)
night elves: currently recovering from Teldrassil burning status unclear.
high elves: just a minority of a minority
neutrals: Seperated by faction divide

seems you got a lot.

You seem to think I actually care about faction stuff. I really don’t. To me, horde and alliance don’t even matter because, lore wise, they are mostly just one people now. So faction nonsense of how goes where, what belongs to who, is all just pointless.

Goblin city will be available to all. Cross faction stuff is already in the game, soon to be added with lfg ques.

So honestly, don’t care. Those still beating the faction drum is just kinda annoying now.

Alliance scum doesn’t deserve to enter cities owned by Horde races.

Yeah, okay