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“252 kings” and “you scale” never manifested, rip.
Expected to be strong classes are strong, expected to be weak are weak.
Indeed. Poor shamans. Least represented class indeed.
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Shaman has enjoyed being in a strong spot all game. I can say that with a 97.3 ele score TOC. They were the #1 pvp class in season 1 and 2 all around, and still persist as the strongest 5s and even 3s class, was solid middle+ PVE dps. Enhance has been great. Tons of utility and buffs. Can heal, and has a lot of healing rep.
Overall more shamans than warriors, and overall in a much better place lol. Going into ICC people think shamans arent going to scale well enough or something, and they “wont” per se but from doing sims they still scale decently well with trinkets and weapons. Theyll be a solid middle of the pack class.
Warrior though, yiiiikes.
paladins just dominate every aspect of gameplay, nice xpac
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so, did this round of PTR give everyone their BiS gear to test that out? or is this just a “woe is me, i picked a class that isn’t topping the charts by a mile, whatever shall i do” post?
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You got 232/238 gear from vendor so you had to play your classic toon.
Yeah, so much for DKs being the hero class.
Since you seem to be intent on posting it everywhere…
Fury warrior looks like a pretty consistent one of spec in most raids… what more do you want?
Oh right, you want warriors to be actually broken so that you stack them.
Buff prot though (or nerf prot pal)
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I just stopped bothering to read Abralan’s stuff. I come by to read comments and see how Abralan pretends not to be crying about their warrior.
I think you meant warrior. Absolute S+ tier for 4 years straight and are solid S tier with decent arppen gear.
Feral/Mage/UDK/Affic are ofc the highest. They are S-tiers.
Hunters/Rogues/Paladins/Warriors/Shamans are all pretty equal.
So no, stop victimizing warriors. They are fine.
Also, last I checked ,there is no manual that mentions that warriors are supposed to be top dps. The whole being #1 obsessions is rather childish. You can still perform well. You can still parse 98-100 and be ahead of 90% of your raid.
Fury warriors are ahead 2/3’s of the specs. and are on par with Enha shamans ~200dps behind.
Data is there. You’re just ignoring it. FWarriors are the last spec that need a buff.
No one really needs a buff. The only 2 specs in the game that MAY need a slight adjustment are Spriests and Boomies.
P.S. I’m main Rdru. And we THE LEAST represented heal class on that chart by a MILE, and really in ALL OF CLASSIC since 2019. The disparity between Hpala and Rdru is far greater than Fwarr to DK or Affic
So I don’t wanna hear warriors’ crying how cruel the world is. Boohoo.
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People aren’t just going to randomly make warriors for the last tier, unless they’re ridiculously op, so idk what you think this even proves. This might be a valid argument in 6 months.
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are you fixated on a different game? Im looking at wotlk classic. If they were going to mess with class balance, they shouldnt be changing the meta while theyre at it.
On a tier that is almost all cleave, which is the only thing warrior is okay it, thats pretty pathetic really.
Why make Feral so insane with battle rez and innervate? warriors doesnt have any of that utility and is way weaker. Feral beats warrior on Valks with its single target damage when warrior has full cleave uptime, lmao.
looks like what everyone said would happen did, every raid ran 1 ret and 1 warrior then nothing after that, so much for stacking ferals and rets i guess
shocked pikachu its an unholy dk/warlock stack, how original. who could have seen this coming?
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Reroll feral or play the class you enjoy. These are your choices. But warriors are solid now and will get better in 264/277 gear. And they do sim 2nd highest after affic. And sim data has been adjusted multiple times with PTR data coming in.
Nowhere it says that warriors must be #1. Absolutely nowhere. So if you’re a warrior main and you had this whole fairy tale of you being #1 on meters like you were in Vanilla and TBC, well mate, that’s 100% on you.
Imagine if people played their class for the sake of enjoying it and actually having fun and not weird flexing “oh yeah look at me im so cool im top damage with 2 button rotation”
And warlocks bring soulstone, cookies, solid SP buff and -res debuff. You ain’t complaining about them.
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To be fair, what Utilities do warriors bring? Dps is pretty much all they got.
they changed the meta was massive arbitrary changes to classic
I have a feral, it catching up to my warrior, 400 less gear score, but even with way longer kill times and way less gear Ive had higher top end damage on a few ToC fights with it 
nowhere does it say that massive utility classes need to be #1 either, yet here we are
there wasnt meta changes changes made to the game to put them there
to cry this much about something so trivial isn’t normal…
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