I don’t know why I am even the slightest bit surprised that no one does mechanics in LFG, even on Heroic.
And since I got over 320 iLVL in less than a day after hitting 120 with no effort, I should brace myself that they will also not do mechanics in M or M+ at low keys.
IT’S NOT HARD! Especially when someone tells you what to do before the fights starts.
Instead of getting angry over something that you know is an issue, you should instead find a group of 4 other like-minded players and progress content together.
It’s easier to provide and receive constructive criticism to/from people you know, which in turn would make for a less emotional experience for you if your lemmings have the capacity to learn.
I think the post was referring to the “I don’t pay $15 a month to do Mechanics” crowd.
I mean there are people that just will not. Do mechanics, and won’t listen even if you tell Them
that’s nothing new. i remember having to cheese falric and marwin by wall hugging in the alcove in halls of reflection eight years ago for my daily batch of frost badges
I get that, which is why my post was more directed at the OP’s attitude to the situation, and subsequently feeling the need to post an emotional forum post.
OP knows LFG is full of these people, and has the means to remove themself from the use of LFG by associating with like-minded players, but instead chooses the nonconstructive action of just ranting about it.
It’s up-there with the entitlement of people who think $15 a month exempts them from mechanics.
Dont act like that’s a fair idea. Not everyone can maintain a fair group of people to do dungeons with. That only works for mythics because that’s how mythics are set up.
i wish there was a way to identify these type of people and let them all group with only other like minded people. when they can’t clear content maybe they will learn.
that isn’t always true, and frankly, it’s not fair to those who do do mechanics to be forced to carry those who do not.
it is one of the failings of LFR that i would like to see ended.
The same crowd that has the lower iLVL tank out DPS and out heal the other players in the group? You mean that crowd?
I have said it before, I will say it again, we need reward for effort. Time and time again you get a handful of players doing the bulk of the work and a handful of players that almost do nothing, they would most likely do nothing if they had the chance.
And what do we all get? The exact same RNG as the next guy.
your not wrong. its why i would love to see actual raiders stay out of LFR. let the LFR crowd try to figure out the raid bosses on there own, and then let them cry about raiders or not.
Lol good one, they will never figure it out, I had to explain G’huun today like 15 after 5 wipes before we finally got it.
And I have limited choices, my alt tank is only 324 iLVL.
You and me both.
which is why i actively encourage raiders to stay out of LFR.
i actually got kicked out of an LFR run because i asked people who weren’t even anywhere near the boss chamber to please come to the boss so that we could do the fight. i was called a jerk and an elitist, for asking people to show up.
shrug. it’s one of the reasons i have given up on retail and will be moving to classic wow.
where the game teaches you from the very beginning that DPS isn’t the only thing that matters.
where the game has unique classes with diverse toolkits.
where the game doesn’t solely focus on getting to end game.
where the game actually feels like an rpg.
Ackshually
End game is still the main focus on all expacs, the difference though is that end game is not the only place you get gear upgrades, at least it was not for me.
I would run MC and if I was down on numbers I would go back to lower dungeons during the week and on weekends before the raid and get some more gear. Because back than doing some lower dungeons could still give you a piece of gear that would actually help rather than whatever the next iLVL is.
Best example would that Onyxia and Rag were released with the game, Rag being the big one and needing specific items and classes, for example Frost Mages and fire resistance gear.
BWL was next which you could still use FR gear and follows by ZG, that did not need FR gear, so you had to change it up, although it was not exactly on the same scale, by than they were changing it from exclusively 40 man, you could technically just get the best gear you could find to finish it.
But than came AQ, which had both a 20 man and 40 man respectively, again same as ZG, Ruins of AQ could be beaten with whatever gear, but in the 40 man, much like MC, you needed specific gear, so instead of just farming AQ20, ZQ or BWL, some people were going back again even further, going back to 5 man dungeons to farm specific nature resistance gear.
Than Naxx came out and your NR gear was pointless again, so you had to once more go back to dungeons, get the best gear you could find along with what raid gear you had and start the journey all over.
But than BC hit and it was a roller coaster ride downhill from there. Looking at the WoW timeline of when things were released and cleared it became very evident that the whole farm gear to clear the next raid was becoming redundant. Raids being cleared weeks, days or even in rare cases the same day it was released.
Move to today’s standards and if the raid is not cleared on the same day on normal there is probably something wrong with the raid, and that is with nothing more than the gear you got from the previous raid.
Hands down I can bet my house if I owned one, Method or Limit will clear The Crucible of Storms within hours of it’s release and possibly on the same day Siege of Zuldazar at least on normal.
If they release the raids the same they done here, as long as RNG is good they will clear each heroic within a week and much like current the moment their iLVL is high enough, Mythic also.
There is no going back to old raids, the iLVL of everything current is being upped to allow players to farm the same stuff we are farming now but simply progress the new raid rather than the old one, there is no need to go back anymore.
I joined a guild on my alliance healer beginning of legion. Did a small handful of dungeons and 1 raid with them. I quickly realized that there seemed to be a skills gap, especially with the leadership. All of the officers of said guild would die to mechanics…easy things. If you tried to correct them or called them out on it the GM would go, “We are not a hardcore guild.” Apparently following mechanics was “hardcore”.
I stopped doing stuff with them after awhile.
Where is this? I’d like… ahem… weigh in on this $15 not to do mechanics bologna.
considering a lot of people never even got to level cap in vanilla, and less then 5% actually raided, i would say that the focus is more on the world, then it was on raiding.
Lol and they wonder why we all flock to Horde.
Last dungeon I ran about an hour ago was ML on Heroic, tanked it. Followed the mechanics to a T. Dodged the first boss stun, even done all the bombs on my own. Helped kill the adds on the second boss, dodged all the crap on number 3 and was the only person standing on the pylons on number 4, along with dodging the gatling gun and bombs.
Stats wise? There were times I was out healing the healer, and by the end I had overall top DPS, as a tank. Had a warrior and 2 druids, lot’s of mobs and their AOE couldn’t beat a tank, they were too busy being dead or stunned.
can’t blaim you for that. one thing i hate about todays player base is that if you bring up that it would be a good thing for the player base to get better at the game (not saying everyone has to be method, but at least make it so that people are EXPECTED to perform mechanics), you are called an elitist or a jerk for such a mind set.