PSA: Flagging is NOT the replacement for downvotes!

Safe spaces scare me. :slightly_frowning_face:

It’s not showing as flagged to me, i bookmarked it and liked it because it needs to be said.

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That’s a change then, it was earlier today. Many confirmed it. Mods must have pulled the flags.

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Quite possibly, I was busy with grandbaby this afternoon so not paying much attention to the forums

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They really aren’t because what one person considers ‘acceptable’ others don’t, it is up to blizzard to decide.

Yep, thats what subjective means.

Yes and no. Its up to which ever college intern forum moderator happens to be looking at that particular flag. Its not like there’s a VP or the board of directors sorting out forum flags.

Did you read what I responded to ? I can’t tell by your response which seems to be coming in from left field.

And whoever is doing the moderation is ‘blizzard’ since they have been hired and paid to do that job.

I have no idea what the point of your post really was to be honest, to debate the definition of words ?

Pretty sure it auto-grays out with enough flags but upon review, mods will make their own decisions. This one turned out fine.

I know you’re trying to be “above it all” and dismiss Blizzard forum mods as interns who don’t know stuffs but you’re probably wrong. They’re paid employees who moderate these forums and they’re doing their jobs.

Of course it’s something that didn’t need to be said. People should know better than to attack logical mom-scoldings.

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Yes I did.

Again, yes and no. Big tech companies have been called out for subcontracting moderators with the ability to block and censor content from call centers overseas and other places like that. No, Blizz hasn’t been accused of this as far as I know.

But still, forum mod positions are going to be entry level / intern type employees. Yes, they represent Blizzard the same way cart jockeys represent Wal Mart.

I’m sorry but untill I see other wise I will assume they are incompetent. I have been false flagged twice and being told to put in a ticket to appeal a silence when the queue time for a ticket is Estimated time of 24 hours isn’t okay. the system reeks of automation, abuse of people flagging what they dont want to see, and dealing with a sub par Customer support on the top of it. these forums are in dire straits still and the flagging feature helps nobody.

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I sort of am. I’m saying its an entry level / intern type position. Some are going to be great, many will not. I’m also not trying to present this as absolute fact. I don’t work for Blizz, I don’t pretend to. Based on info from other tech companies and how they hire that type of position, its likely that Blizz forum mods are entry level / intern types.

I had a flag suspension last week. Supposed to last for 24 hours but I appealed and it was cleared up in a couple of hours. Stuff happens. I’ve had other arguments over a mod action I still don’t agree with on the old forums but basically, this is their house, their rules. Doesn’t matter what you think is fair or whatever, doesn’t matter.

So let them do their thing. This new forum has a lot of weirdo things but it’s working okay - for a forum.

ps. Historically, Blizzard interns are tasked to create the next xpac’s poop quests. Some kind of tradition there.

Strongly disagree. These new forums are almost as bad as BFA itself.

No one is challenging their ability to put a CoC in place…

Not caring about what your customers think is what got Star Wars a boycott that has Disney losing money on the single most expensive IP purchase in the history of the entertainment industry and EA losing tons on BF5.

People vote with their wallets. Challenge that at your own peril.

I don’t know that there are just forum mods though, or if CMs and the reps from CS have double duty with their designated roles AND mod stuff. There’s a ton of things we could speculate and never really know the answer.

With the sheer volume of posts and inevitable flags being made, I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a small team of 5 ish interns wading thru them. But that is just a guess.

I don’t think there should be likes or dislikes. Or up votes and down votes. Take it all away and just let discussion take place.

I imagine there are potentially more, but like I said it is hard to tell.

I would totally support that.

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Seems like often people don’t get the difference between the content of message and the way they communicate it. There’s way to tell things without it being agressive/trolling/innapropriate. You can be polite and critize and have different opinions than other people at the same time. If you think that what you post might be flagged then it probably will, just gotta have some common sense which some people seems to lack of, hence why we have moderation/flagging.

Personnaly, I don’t flag often, only the most obvious troll or very ill-mannered people. I’ve also only seen a couple of false flags and I check the forums often, sure I try dodge some kind of topics which might be more prone to it.

There’s one thing I’d really like they do is give the reason to the person that get punished/flagged so they might learn from it.

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Ok, so what is trolling? Someone might not like my response to them and they might call it trolling.

The problem is that the false flagging is being used on a heavily automated system. If you false flag an OP in a thread, the chances are much, much higher that it will be caught and the person that flagged will be punished instead. When you take a random post deep down into a thread, you are mostly just gambling on whether the mod goes through the majority of the thread to read context of what was said. I wish I had kept my emails on my suspensions because I swear they would make people laugh at how dumb they were.