PSA: Consumables

Buy stuff now before they go up in price next week. I bought thousands of really cheap herbs today. It’s only a matter of time before one of my guildmates buys up the rest and flips them.

i would not be worried about this consumables
if a few months they will be outdated

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It’s a warning for ppl who are actually going to participate in S4.

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Why would the price go up when the AH is going region wide for that stuff, meaning a boatload more people posting them, meaning dirt cheap prices?

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not always we will have some noob who will think easy cash and go broke and complain on the forums

other would still list the price to get gold

I forgot about the region-wide thing for stackable items. I don’t think my guildmate has enough gold to buy all of that.

I feel like region wide, all of those things are just going to be so super common and there will be so many that it’ll just plummet the market on all of that.

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well lets hope so the ah for all realms will be good might help out the low pop also
but we need to see it and not on paper

Because thats not how it will work at all.

So currently if you are on q high/full pop server you enjoy extremely low prices.

Next week qll your goods will rise in cost, because all the materials will rise in cost, because all those low cost materials will be offsetting the high cost materials on low and mid pop servers, so you will be paying a premium so low pop servers can get a discount.

Enjoy.

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I think you assume that there is that much demand on medium and low pop realms, which I highly doubt.

On all realms, the cost of your crafts are always a race to near crafting cost - unless someone has a monopoly (legendaries) or forces a temporary one (resetting materials).

I think it is just going to be a race to the bottom on consumables. I doubt that the demand from medium/low pop realms will be enough to offset the increased supplies of materials from high pop realms.

That would imply that there are tons of players not using consumables at all on those med/low pop realms because it was not financially viable to do so. (which frankly if they just spent an hour or 2 herbing/mining and selling mats it would’ve been fine).

I think it really depends on your server, as a low pop AH with more expensive consumables having access to the massive pool of consumables of a high pop server would cause their prices to drop like a brick.

That’s if I’m understanding what this merge is correctly.

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You clearly struggle with basic mathematics.

Supply is limited, right? Supply is not infinite (like items from a npc vendor) therefor someone has to go farm those materials. On high pop servers therr is high supply, high supply keeps prices down as supply find parity with demand.

When you take the low supply from low to medium pop servers where materials are significantly higher than high/full pop servers and mix it with the higher relative demand from the low pop servers you average cost of supply is HIGHER since the average price per unit is HIGHER. It is not lower.

They are not merging the AH consumables because low pop servers are complaining that the price of consumables is too low. To think that the price of consumables will go DOWN after you increase demand and decrease supply is just an embarrassing lack of education on basic math.

My point was that if you actually math out all of the realms - the consumable cost is more or less crafting cost, maybe crafting cost + 10% profit.

On low pop realms that number “seems” higher, but that is because the materials also sell for more. So gathering is actually much more profitable on those realms if you bothered to do so. It could’ve funded your consumables easily.

As to the “global market” - you will just see a race to the bottom on the materials, which will also be a race to the bottom on the consumable itself.

I find it highly unlikely that there is a lot of “pent up demand” from players who weren’t already purchasing consumables but will now do so because it is “cheaper” (a lower number relative to them).

TLDR - med/low pop will see the cost go down. High pop will likely see the number go down but not by much.

This makes no sense.

The median price for the materials will rise if yiu are high/full pop, because the supply side is limited (someone has to go and do the work).

How do you figure the supply side is going to crater when it will be less profitable then ever before on a low/medium pop to do the farming? Which means demand will go up. Supply of finished product may go down, but finished product is server dependant, only consumables and materials are region wide.

Either way, there is no situation where the cost of materials doesnt go UP not down. This is honestly first chapter of basic economics 101.

The supply is priced high on those realms because the demand is almost zero. There is no market on those realms, so a few sellers price things at their dream price and relist regularly, when they’re not posting fake bids from their other account to make it seem like the items are in demand and that’s a reasonable price.

S4 consumable sales will be two weeks. Two are for both weeks of KSM and people will not need consumables for the raid mount because they can get the mount through LFR. The only consumable allowed in rated pvp is bandages, to my knowledge.

Surely the cross realm AH means supply will outstrip demand, no?

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Supplies from ALL NA realms will be linked. How exactly does that cause it to go up? Supply is only low on low pop realms because there are less ppl, who will have a small impact on the total regionwide supply.

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That sounds like a great way to just flush money down the drain through AH cuts on the hope that some unsuspecting mark will buy at an outlandish price.