DF S3/S4 were also incredible unbalanced with VDH having higher numbers than Prot Pally. To suggest that this season is balanced because its similar to DF S3/S4 is nonsensical. Only the last five weeks of DF S4 was balanced.
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The best way to buff other tanks is to revert the spell cast change in TWW. Unless pally is squishy like the start of the season, people flock to prot pally for the interrupt, which is the only reliable way to shutdown a spell cast.
Untrue, warrior is pound for pound more durable. Pally is meta because it pumps, full stop.
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Paladins bring a lot of raid/group utility as well and it used to be they were the lowest DPS as payment for such utility. Now that they are doing good DPS on top of the utility thats why they are being brough over all other tanks. The main issue is Warrior did not need to be nerfed the way they are doing this. The lower tanks such a Brew should have been buffed but someone at Blizzard took the easy way out and made a stupid knee jerk reaction to remove most forms of Rage generation for warriors with no real reason to do so.
VDH had double silence sigil removed, raid buff nerfed, and substantially nerfed their stop utility with the redesign of monsters recasting immediately. Like every other non-awakened season with one dominant meta tank, I expect multiple nerfs.
Hystorically, they hard nerfed the last season tanks to obvilion, e.g., legion BDK became trash into bfa, bfa prot war into slands, slands BDK into DF, DF VDH into TWW. They didnât made significant nerfs to meta tanks during the expansion, but buffed non-meta tanks to become meta instead.
I even went back and posted a chart from SL S1. The tank distribution we are seeing is normal. I also never said they are balanced. They never are and I stated how many times now that they should do a better job balancing. The argument is that the distribution is no different than previous seasons.
Didnât Guardian Druid eat a rage nerf and survivability nerf for S3 DF after being the meta tank in S2?
True, but to make good use of them, you need to pair them with a disc which has questionable utility, and Iâd argue Warrior/Shaman has a better synergy and equivalent stops, but Iâm not putting out 4m dps per pack and the Sham isnât making up the difference.
Amen, Iâve been trying like hell on the PTR to find a light somewhere, but we play like absolute dog water now. They took every bit of fun out of the spec. Good thing I keep all my tanks and healer current just in case 
Im staying Warrior but I am going to be sad as Im a Colossus warrior and know from testing on the PTB Im in for a bad season.
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Godspeed friend.
Oh I know Im Colossus Arms and Prot. Im staying with it but ya sadly I know whats in store.
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Not looking forward to the next season just because of these warrior changes. Looks like a super exciting raid, and M+ could be a fun season again.
Walk the changes back Blizzard!
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Revert Strategist nerf. Your whole bloody tier set is about SS.
Put a bit more rage into the abilities.
Work on our NON-EXISTENT utilities, for raid and m+. Itâs fun to check âUtilityâ per tank class and only see BS/silly CS, as the rest is marginal/not worth taking.
You have time to make this happen, and let us still have FUN (isnât your goal for everyone to have fun?) while playing our class. The TWW is already a first expansion since vanilla that I HAD to change my class to a DK, guess why?
And to add to the main topic - reduce the pally damage to match others, case solved.
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Heres the thing no tanks should be nerfed at all. I know I made a Nerf Paladins thread and thats just to keep a certain pair of Paladins out of the warrior threads so we can give our feedback with them trying to derail our posts. Instead of nerfing warriors they should be buffing BM Monk. Blizzard has lost touch with the players and thinks that nerfing a tank in the middle of a lack of M+ tanks is going to help the issue is just so far backwards its not even funny. If Blizzard cant even be bothered to respond to the warrior feedback they need to fire the dev in charge of warriors cause hes not doing his job.
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The problem with Monk or a DK is that if you buff them in M+, they will never be swapped in Raids, and itâs already hard to make other tanks âgood enoughâ to compete with certain abilities they have.
In terms of M+ yes, they would need something, but clearly things that donât affect the raid environment which is also a part of the game!
Did the nerfs for Warrior were even warranted? No, especially while x class was barely touched and still improved (4set). Clearly, it is a patch note that they wanted to add in S1 at the start but didnât have time to implement. Now using it as an excuse of âwe are happy with the classâ so letâs make it worse. Because, reasons.
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It honestly makes 0 since that:
NO No however if they are in a good place and not Meta/King of the Charts in all aspects you donât go and nerf them. That is just foolish. The other changes like the talent changes and working on making warriors have a little more survival are fine. As much as it annoys me cause its clear the devs donât play Colossus even the change to execute not procing Colossal Might I can deal with but the Rage Nerfs are just stupid. There is no world in which they are justified or good for the Prot warrior spec. You nerf both the dmg and the defensives of the class by nerfing rage. YOU ARE TAKING THE FUN OUT OF WARRIOR BLIZZARD! Why? Who hurt you, and if no one hurt you then FIRE the dev who made that class call cause they are just milking you for a paycheck there is 0 reason that kind of nerf should ever go live.
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