So now the WOTLK armor pen prot pvp is done, what do we use now wrathful? And what gems/stats/ reforge? It was fun using the almost all pve arp gear and being able to do tons of dmg and live but ive found almost no info on warr prot pvp for pre-patch or cata itself, any help?
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That is a big yikes from me dawg.
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Dunno about right now, however, prot warrior in cata is bottom of the barrel as vengeance was disabled against other players, which prot warrior needed to even be barely viable in pvp
You hit like a limp noodle and get one shotted by frost/unholy dks
Sorry friend, Prot War pvp is dead in cata. Wotlk was its hayday. It’ll see a return whenever Gladiator Stance comes out (Warlords?) but never as good as wotlk prot war.
Str gems, Str/Stam and stam since Resil isn’t working. Go attack power as well as a stat since it increases all damage and shield slam.
Prot is an Aoe machine with blood and thunder spreading rend, T-clap increases shockwave and spreads bleeds. Shockwave still hits hard.
I got a 22k Shield Slam on a priest earlier. Using Death’s verdict then Anvil on other for attack power. Just stack att power atm. Berserking enchant.
Edit - just picked up the 277 elite Wrathful crossbow since att power matters now.
Not really it did fine and was pretty fun in WPvP and BGs especially when you get Souldrinker sword.
Maybe im bias because I play feral and we dump all over warriors in cata, but i found them to be nothing but an annoying gnat in cata OG and on cata pservers.
Well lets look at Prots tool kit still.
- Melee and medium range stun also Fear.
- 2 siliences melee and ranged
- dispel (good vs druid hots, priest shields)
- 2 charges with Intercept and Heroic leap and Intervene breaks roots
You can collosus smash too then stance dance for Shield Slam.
I’m not saying they are OP Giga chads but in the right hands they have everything you need PvP wise. Which I think the OP wants to know.
Then with right items like Souldrinker if you get one from Dragon soul you will have fun as that item now gives you sustain healing and added damage which is really Prots weak point is sustain. You then start to feel like a Raid boss.
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Cool, i hope to see it in action in cata classic. Best of luck to you and OP.
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Thanks honestly Prot probably has the better chance of any warrior spec vs Feral though I admit it’s a tough matchup. Prot just has better tools in my opinion. Then some Cata items really correct it’s weaknesses so they are 100% gear reliant for top end.
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Why nothing is better than doing damage with a Shield in PvP.
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There is probably like 3 people in the whole world that are worried about this issue.
Are you referencing cata prot warrior pvp before or after vengeance was removed from pvp? This is a big part of what killed it.
I was speaking generally and the overall experience for the whole expansion. With that said I never understood the removal of vengeance and think it’s a better PvP mechanic than PvE.
I don’t remember ever being squishy like you said or having a hard time with DK’s. I also remember having a blast at the end of the expansion after Vengeance was removed but Souldrinker was a major part of that. Although I had terrible luck and only managed to have the LFR version but it’s soo good for Prot that it’s still BiS and changes your damage/healing drastically.
Prot PvP was never killed in Cata. As I said it has a great tool kit and gear options, rotation to do damage.
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Vengance was removed as indirect nerf to the blood dk which was nearly unkillable for most classes/specs and vengance allowed them to take loads of damage and deal crazy hits back
Lol really? I played prot back in the day and frost/unholy clapped you hard (Not the only ones either after vengance was pulled)
Frost strike/howling blast = Frost damage aka spell damage meaning all your physical armor was niill against this, they’d dump on you for 40k shots
Unholy same thing with coil/dots = disease/magical damage, dot kite dead
Here’s what you do.
Reroll prot pally, be 100x better.
Tanks should be able to tank multiple DPS and do more damage if they are being hit. Again think it was a good PvP mechanic. Maybe it needed tuning but the mechanic itself made sense for PvP.
No I never had any problems. With that said I play WoW to play Prot.
Vengeance has nothing to do with this though. Sounds like you had a build problem potentially not enough sustain, CDs or Resil. However this isn’t a Vengeance issue. So not sure why you are linking them. Prot was pretty tanky.
You have spell reflect, 2 stuns, 2 siliences You also have the talent Shield Mastery which reduces magic damage by 20% when you Shield Block. So when you are bursting you also are the most Tanky. Not to mention the flat 10% from D stance.
You have more than enough tools and mitigation.
Prot overall is arguably in a better spot than Wrath since they have access too Second wind and Bloodcraze. They really lacked healing in Wrath. Also in Cata they can stack Resil instead of worrying about PvE stats. They are way tankier than Wrath.
I see zero scenario where a DK is kiting any Prot warrior unless they pressed no buttons since they have some of the highest mobility in the game with 3 gap closers. Not to mention a way to silience them from range or reflect.
Prot is very tanky and with the right gear does well the whole expansion especially the end of it when you get Souldrinker. Since your damage and healing is based on your HP and this also makes defensives like Last stand and Rallying offensive as well.
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I have a Prot Pal too but feel like they really fall behind in Cata in PvP being the wheel chair class. It’s not like they have a gap closer and they don’t have a ton to deal with casters/ranged.
I might try Prot Pal some since I didn’t originally in Cata and mained Prot War. Just feel like they really lack a lot from burst and tool kit.
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Could just go prot pally. I know its not warrior, but it does basically have 100% armor pen. The only thing physical is Crusader Strike from what I can see, and autos.
Even right now the DPS set bonus would work great since it just increases all damage by 5% and seals and judgements deal 10% more damage.
They also have dazing shield as a glyph, hand of freedom. I dont even have great gear but self buffed my Shield of the Righteous are critting for 15k. Avenger’s Shield is critting for 11k. Can even make weapon swap macros for Crusader Strike since it gets 310.5% weapon damage.
Just an option. Yeah you dont have charge, but you do have options. Pick your poison I guess.
Abombshield bruh 
sure thing let me know how that works out for yah a few months into cata classic rolling prot warrior for pvp
I played nightfall battlegroup pre merge an held my own against the most toxic pvp realm in wow history: kel’thuzad (If you even know what this means I’d be surprised lmao) managed a pathetic 2k rating but at the time that was decent for a prot spec so I’d say my memory is on par with how things went down
You know Prot War has access to 100% arm pen too right.
I’m just not sure. I loved Prot Pal in Wrath but if anything is somewhat dead in Cata it’s Prot Pal. Their damage gets gutted. Hammer doesn’t do 4x multiplier anymore. Then other classes got zoom zoom and Pally didn’t.
Warrior got Heroic leap and really Prot Pal needs Divine steed in Cata. I just feel like Prot Pal is a target dummy and you are spending Holy power on WoG cause you aren’t on target.