Proposal to re-introduce RDF to WotLK

[Depressíng-earthfury]

@Veloxx-arthas

@Grukk-bloodsail-buccaneers

the reason it wasn’t included in Classic even though it was in the original WotLK

It wasn’t in Wotlk until ICC.

Every feature listed below was released early in WotLK Refoged:

@Depressíng-earthfury

3.1.0 04/15/2009

• Dual Specialization
• Ground Mounts no longer dismissing when you enter water
• 2-hour refundable items when purchased with alternate currencies (badges, honor, etc.)
• Class Roles in the LFG feature
• Players will now be able to queue for battlegrounds from any location. Leaving a battleground will return you to the location from which you entered.

3.1.2 05/19/2009

• Equipment Manager (saving sets)

3.2.0 08/05/2009

• 2 hour “just in case” trade window for raid & dungeon loot
• Upgraded cat/bear form art
• EXP through battlegrounds
• NPCs to turn EXP gain off
• Shorter mount cast time
• Apprentice Riding at level 20
• Journeyman Riding at level 40
• Expert Riding at level 60
• Expert Riding flight speed changed to 150% instead of 60% (faster than ground mounts now!)
• Double-paned quest log for easier quest info viewing
• More mailboxes in the capital cities

3.3.0 12/09/2009

• Maximum character level limitations for meeting stones removed
• Dungeon & Raid difficulty shown on the minimap
• Knockbacks no longer dismounting players

3.3.3 03/23/2010

• Random Battleground feature
• Battlegrounds will no longer award Marks of Honor

Also, something that was NEVER in original wotlk but is in WotLK reforged:

• Titan Rune Dungeons.

[Ronstantine-faerlina]

@Jeynar-mannoroth

So the thing you’re complaining about coming with RDF is already in the game, it just doesn’t affect you.

That’s my point. We can see the downside to RDF in action.

[Veloxx-arthas]

Relax, I’m not making an argument for it to not be in. Saying it was there originally is dishonest though and not helping your cause. Not sure if you guys realize this but none of us care if they add rdf. The spam is just very annoying.

[Jeynar-mannoroth]

@Veloxx-arthas

Saying it was there originally is dishonest though and not helping your cause.

It was there for 48% of the expansion.

Both sides use this argument stupidly, but the objective reality is that 48% of Wrath originally had RDF.

[Grukk-bloodsail-buccaneers]

RDF was in the original WotLK. Talk about dishonesty? It’s an outright lie to say it wasn’t.

I played the original WotLK and RDF was my favorite thing.

WotLK + RDF was the pinnacle of World of Warcraft. It went downhill starting with Cata.

[Veloxx-arthas]

I’m just pointing out that you should phrase it properly. I don’t care about rdf either way at all

[Jeynar-mannoroth]

But RDF was literally originally in WotLK.

[Veloxx-arthas]

Not sure if you’re being obtuse but so was icc.

[Jeynar-mannoroth]

Yes, what’s your point here?

[Holyshytte-faerlina]

@Grukk-bloodsail-buccaneers

RDF cannot be accessed by a UI button like in original WotLK. Instead you will have to go to the dungeon’s summoning stone and interact with the stone to access RDF for that dungeon. This makes travel time a factor, so you can’t stand next to your class trainer and level up with RDF.

Its a bad idea because it will just make the current tool way more efficient since we can already queue for multiple dungeon, but instead you can just remove the teleportation and make people travel to the dungeon

@Grukk-bloodsail-buccaneers

• RDF would have a daily limit. For example you can do maybe 3 RDF runs every day. Then you would have to group manually after that. This encourages players to stick with the group and finish the run instead of dropping out if they don’t like where it’s going. A limit on RDF also prevents spamming RDF to level up. Players who want to do more than 3 runs each day would have to form groups manually. Players who focus on dungeon runs would still want to join a large guild that focuses on that.

The game should’t force you to choose a play style especially for leveling

[Jeynar-mannoroth]

@Holyshytte-faerlina

The game should’t force you to choose a play style especially for leveling

But it does right now?

[Holyshytte-faerlina]

yes thats why the new rdf shouldn’t impose it either

[Jeynar-mannoroth]

Well yeah, I dunno what the OP is on about at all since levelling with RDF is slower than it is just questing. His entire premise is wrong really.

[Nemestrïnus-tichondrius]

OP, and others opposed to RDF, seem to be under the impression that the moment you queue for random dungeons you just gain levels and have gear thrown at you. completely ignoring the fact you still have to wait for the queue to pop, you have to still kill the mobs and bosses inside the dungeon, and you have to actually get lucky enough that the item you want drops.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

@Astrogazer-mankrik

No thanks. I’m playing Classic specifically to avoid anti-social features like RDF.

no ur not ur on wrath. so w/ that lie i guess when rdf comes youll delete and go back to classic?

[Wafectus-grobbulus]

Same thing with doing BGs and getting honor gear.

It’s the toxic, elitist culture that is against all X-realm queue systems.

[Wafectus-grobbulus]

@Grukk-bloodsail-buccaneers

I don’t want to ruin the social aspect of the game for other players.

I don’t have a problem with it.

Give me LFR and RDF.

[Astrae-anubarak]

RDF is one of the fastest ways to level - how does RDF work with Joyous Journeys if people want it to happen?

Tbh tho i do miss the little loot packs while leveling

[Jeynar-mannoroth]

@Astrae-anubarak

RDF is one of the fastest ways to level

It’s really not.

[Nemestrïnus-tichondrius]

@Astrae-anubarak

RDF is one of the fastest ways to level

not for classic it isn’t. unless by “one of the fastest ways” you mean it’s one of the 3 ways people level up (BGs, Questing and Dungeons)