I am. But if he wants to be pissed about how unauthentic Classic WoW is but still plays it anyways: That is called being a hypocrite.
Or it could be called giving it a try and seeing if he can deal with the unnecessary changes to a game he’s probably been wanting them to recreate for a very long time.
Like how I gave The Hobbit two movies before I decided the series was a complete mockery of the source material and didn’t bother with the third.
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That’s not what being a hypocrite means. More like an begrudging participant. A hypocrite would be if he told everyone not to play whilst playing it himself.
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Classic isn’t out yet, I don’t have a sub and with most of my guild not returning I probably won’t play unless they fix it.
So how am I a hypocrite when I can’t play classic because it’s not out yet? Or are you running out of arguments from being shot down so much so you revert to this - a literal impossibility?
Please, son.
It’s two months to launch my friend. The truth is that a lot of this stuff boils down to the fact they’re using totally different code and a different engine from what they used before. They’re basically rebuilding Classic using retail assets. The fact is doing anything else would have required a ground-up development process that would have taken another two years. They can’t go back at this point. The Beta is what we’re gonna get. The only way to finally teach Blizzard a lesson is to stick to your guns and not pay for a game you honestly don’t want. We did that for years with the expansions and look where that got us.
I’m convinced Classic WoW now is only being made in an attempt to stop hemorrhaging subscribers and to get legal pretext to shutdown the private servers for good. They’re relying on all the people backing down from their No Changes stance they had in exchange for a subpar experience. You want two banana, but you can only get one banana. They’re relying on you accepting your lot in life and paying for the one banana when you want two and you were promised two.
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They actually added things like leeway and spell batching deliberately which was not present on the 8.0 client.
The issue is that these things have significantly missed the mark.
Spell batching accommodating for 400ms when players are probably averaging around 40-50?
Leeway accommodating for moving players with different latency granting 5+yrd range to melee attacks when latency is no longer an issue?
Loot trading, 1.12 AV, and right click report were all separate design choices and additions. It has nothing to do with the limitations of the pushing across the data.
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They can fix it, though. That’s the problem. We know they can tune batching because it runs on the modern client and the modern client is tuned way down. Same with leeway. Same with layering, reporting, trading, etc - these are things we see them changing.
Blizz’s excuse is numbers and they even admit things will play differently when they CAN control it. Believe me they can fix a lot of this stuff.
Did I ever say you are a hypocrite right now? Your logic is sad.
If you want 99% try a pserver.
Classic is more like 82%.
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But so is yours… So maybe fix yours if you’re going to call him out on it.
No, these changes really do affect the game play (in big ways) and what classic was…
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No. If you non-stop complain about how X issues are bad and how much you hate them but still play the game involving those issues: that’s being a hypocrite. Like if you say you hate a product but still use the product: That’s being a hypocrite.
Right but now that we’re finding out how much those pserver were actually getting things wrong how much can we think they were really providing an authentic experience?
Right here:
What?
Huh?
I must not have read that correctly…
Oh.
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Such a child lol.
I’m not the one making stuff up, so no.
With that last comment you did where you broke my comment by half each re-quote: yes you are lol. I don’t see anywhere in that comment that shows professionalism.
No. I’m a comedian. Oh you even lied again:
Wow.
Hey everyone, I’m playing Classic. I don’t have a sub but I’m playing Classic so I’m a hypocrite because I’m not paying for a game that isn’t out yet but I’m still playing it somehow and complaining.
Yeah.
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Don’t get me wrong here, I agree with you. If they cared enough and were willing to put in the work and had the funds allocated to the project they could and should address the issues. The problem is you don’t understand that they do all this work and finish it like a year before they tell you anything about it. When Classic dropped there were already back room discussions for expansions and design ideas as far ahead as Cataclysm. Not quite as you would know it, but ahead. These guys do something when they clock in every day.
If you can read through the Corporate-Speak in their interviews and presentations what they’re saying is basically, “It is what it is, these features are a part of the engine, we can’t take them out.” It’s like saying you can run a car engine without pistons. It’s just not gonna happen. I’m afraid the only thing left for the real fans to do now is stick to their guns and not feed this beast anymore.
We can hope we can raise enough Hell that they’ll change it, but since Blizzard is run by publishers now and not developers I highly doubt they’ll make a real attempt to fix it. They’re probably all insured enough to cover any possible massive failure of the product.
What’s really sad is a billion-dollar company couldn’t do what a handful of guys in their home offices have been doing for basically free for years. They’re acting like this is some insurmountable task when it really isn’t. They could’ve easily done something as simple as contract the Nostalrius team or another set of developers, bring them on at the company and give them access to all the best tech to do what they’ve already been doing.
People do know you don’t have to pay a subscription to use the Classic Forums, yeah? Because a lot of us have only interest in Classic/Vanilla. If I was expected to pay for a game I don’t play - or what amounted to $15/mo for forum access - I’d just stick to reddit or something.
Private servers got wrong things that really had no bearing on the authenticity of the experience. In fact many former devs have come out and told people things like dynamic respawns - a common feature on private servers - were always there to keep overpopulated zones from dying. If the exact numbers aren’t right but it still plays the same, who cares? Blizzard is wasting all their time on the look of authenticity rather than the gameplay and community experience.
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For free? The only reason to sub is classic, we get retail for free and a lot don’t even want it…for free.
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