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This game has changed so much from Vanilla it’s not even funny.

Layering, batching is broken, leeway is broken, right click report, loot trading, retail AV, mounts, etc.

Blizz, what are you doing? Most of my old guild isn’t coming back after they played the beta and are keeping up on all this.

Why so many changes to how the game played? To how we interacted with other players? To how we policed our own groups?

Why?

And to you folks defending these changes - why? Especially when you call yourselves #nochanges yet you’re fine with all of this?

This isn’t how Vanilla was. Classic is not an authentic recreation.

We want it to play like it was. Right now there are changes which, while you say are accurate, don’t BEHAVE accurately. This drastically alters the meta. How this escapes you is beyond me.

We don’t want layering. We don’t want broken spell batching. We don’t want broken leeway. We don’t want 1.12 AV. We don’t want right-click report. We don’t want bs with mounts. We don’t want loot trading. Etc.

You can wave your hands and say “look at this lamp glow!” all you want in an attempt to appease the fake #nochanges apologists but stop changing the game.

Stop. As someone who is legit #nochanges we want the game we remember. We want the game we played. We know, today, that through improved technology the game doesn’t PLAY the same even IF the back-end numbers are the same. You’re running on the modern client, things aren’t playing as they were and you’re deliberately ignoring the community when we have problems with sweeping changes you are making to the game and the meta.

Eyes are on you. Do the right thing and make sure it PLAYS like it did with the same level social interaction we had back then and environment. If that means you need to tune the game so it PLAYS like it used to for the majority of players because of the new engine then do it.

Stuff is broke. Real broke. We all know it. None of this “check out this authentic lamp glow” can hide it. You’re not that slick.

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This is Classic WoW, not Vanilla WoW. And they never said it will be an authentic recreation. They said they will make it as authentic as possible.

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And it’s obviously lost on you.

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I mean - did you actually expect Blizzard to really do it properly?

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Because they recreated the game over the 8.0 client.

recreated , It is not the 1.12 client.

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And it’s obviously lost on you. While you are crying about it having some changes: I am gonna enjoy a 99% blizz-like Vanilla WoW game.

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With a decade of asking, all the talks that went down, the 250k+ signatures hand-delivered, the game industry on watch - I thought they might have put in more effort, yeah.

Joke’s on me, I guess.

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Too many people are “It has to be 100% perfectly how I remember it or Classic should never happen”

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Bruh… It’s Blizzard. It kind of is on you if you actually believed they’d make a legit attempt at recreating Vanilla.

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And I can recreate a pixel and timing-perfect Super Mario Brothers in UE4.

Technology, how DOES it work? Hint: it’s not magic!

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Recreating Vanilla on the 8.0 client was the challenge and they created an authentic Vanilla experience

Is it 1.12 exactly no, you can’t expect that.

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They did. It’s just you type of people that can’t accept sacrifices.

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I think you miss the point that there was a very specific group of people pushing for this to get done for years and years. They finally think they broke through to Blizzard, only to find out Blizzard isn’t faithfully recreating the game they’ve been asking for.

In all honestly - it’s absolutely ridiculous. They told a specific crowd that they’re going to do this for them, and then went on to create something different.

Now I’m not one of the people who was begging. I thought it was cool they said they were going to do it, but was extremely skeptical that they’d do it properly. It appears they’ve screwed it up in classic Blizzard fashion.

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Not an excuse. They could easily tune, change AV, mounts, right click report, layering, etc.

We know they can remove layering, right click reporting, alter batching, leeway, etc.

Welcome to the modern engine and 2019. Anything else you need help with?

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Adding things to attempt to bolster argument.

Weird retail AV isn’t the 1.12 version, can you elaborate on the mount changes? and adding “etc,” hahahaha

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I can’t? I wasn’t one of the people asking for it, nor am I upset about any of it. I don’t plan on playing it. I just like to come here and sort of see what’s going on with it. As far as I can tell, they lied about recreating an authentic Vanilla recreation and are making some sort of frankenstein out of it. That’s just the fact.

They said one thing and did another. That’s Blizzard for you.

I’m not upset one bit, though and have no problem accepting it. I expected it from the announcement.

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Changing the game isn’t a “sacrifice”. It’s changing the game. They are fundamentally altering things they don’t need to.

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Who’s to say they won’t do that?

Layering will be gone after launch.

Some spell batching issues may be resolved as they are still working on the game.

It’s not as easy as you make it sound. And if you believe you could have made a 100% recreation you should have applied for the job.

It’s unrealistic to expect a 100% recreation.
Because it’s not the 1.12 client.

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I can tell you’re new to the forums if you haven’t seen all the complaints. I don’t need to recount them all for the folks that have been here. We all know what’s up.

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Clearly you don’t because you’re already showing your ignorance on how and why things are in place.

See you in Aug 27th though

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