Pro Changers take heed

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

You mean besides the armor clipping, the animations not lining up, and even movement being effected?

Tell me this. If it worked fine why was it removed?

Armor has always clipped, and in some cases the new models fixed some of the distortion in armor textures, I’ve posted an example of this before. Only Blizzard knows exactly why the toggle was removed, we can only speculate.

[Fateweaver-misha (Fateweaver)]

@Galdor-maelstrom

Boo hoo, until Blizzard makes a statement declaring opinions opposing your no-change philosophy are against the rules, you’re going to have to deal with them

Cool. Than Pro-Changers shouldn’t get upset when we No-changers respond with:

@Ythisens

“Authentic”
proposes changes

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Fateweaver-misha

@Galdor-maelstrom

Boo hoo, until Blizzard makes a statement declaring opinions opposing your no-change philosophy are against the rules, you’re going to have to deal with them

Cool. Than Pro-Changers shouldn’t get upset when we No-changers respond with:

@Ythisens

“Authentic”
proposes changes

Take it with a grain of salt when blizzard is making changes

[Sabetha-turalyon (Sabetha)]

You mean besides the armor clipping, the animations not lining up, and even movement being effected?

Tell me this. If it worked fine why was it removed?

As best as I can tell from what I used of the toggle, what it mostly was was the old models on the new skeleton rig for animations.

So if the animation more or less lined up properly for what it was with the old model, it worked out okay. If it didn’t, well… that’s where the numerous animation glitches showed up. Just how bad it was depended on what race/gender your character was.

Only Blizzard fully knows why it was removed but at a guess? It was removed because with Demon Hunters and new animations being added all the time as they revamped or added things the number of visual glitches were only increasing because everything was designed with the new models in mind and not the old ones.

They probably considered the old models not worth hanging onto anymore, but if they had the toggle in Classic they would still have the same issue with the animation sets unless they went through and fixed that as well.

Also the new models ruined my ponytail on my Shaman and I’m still bitter about that.

[Furidar-emerald-dream]

LFR was shot down at Blizzcon dude

[Xecks-stormrage (Xecks)]

@Fateweaver-misha

Cool. Than Pro-Changers shouldn’t get upset when we No-changers respond with:

“Authentic”

ummm you guys missed the original post that these guys are butchering . go look for it and it doesnt mean what you guys think it means now.

here this post.

Changes Blizzard could make

No you aren’t. You are the troll.

[Xano-bleeding-hollow (Xano)]

I will yield and no longer bother with posting anything related to pro change. The devs have spoken

[Dealloc-dethecus (Dealloc)]

And neither are the no change crowd, deal with it like an adult.

Actually, we are getting what we asked for

[Melaned-blackrock (Melaned)]

I like Ythisens too.

[Dealloc-dethecus (Dealloc)]

Do you know how many hundreds of people tried to say that Ysithens isn’t a developer and his words have absolutely no meaning on Classic when he originally posted about it a year ago?

Yeah true. You know who is a developer though? The lead developer of Classic WoW. He’s a developer. He is in fact the lead developer. You know what he said? Go play BfA if you want class balance. Yep. The lead Classic Developer said that.

Blizzard’s stance on Classic has been made apparent. Blizzard’s stance is no changes.

[Dealloc-dethecus (Dealloc)]

And until they say something different they are still open to changes that do not affect core game play. So while some changes have clearly been shot down many have not.

What do they have to explicitly shoot down before you get the picture? Do they have to reject every possible idea for a change before you get it?

[Dealloc-dethecus (Dealloc)]

Has Dual spec been shot down?

Really? You really need them to tell you that this isn’t going to be in Classic? Really? REALLY!?

You have got to be one of the most dedicated trolls I have ever seen. You just don’t let up. There’s no way you’re that dense. No human could possibly be that dense. You have to be a super dedicated basement dwelling troll.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

Has Dual spec been shot down?

Really? You really need them to tell you that this isn’t going to be in Classic? Really? REALLY!?

You have got to be one of the most dedicated trolls I have ever seen. You just don’t let up. There’s no way you’re that dense. No human could possibly be that dense. You have to be a super dedicated basement dwelling troll.

Apparently yithesins pointing out an authentic experience doesn’t mean crap.

[Dealloc-dethecus (Dealloc)]

Apparently yithesins pointing out an authentic experience doesn’t mean crap.

It is good to hear a blue supporting our cause at least. And yeah, I should probably save this quote for later.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

And until they say something different they are still open to changes that do not affect core game play. So while some changes have clearly been shot down many have not.

What do they have to explicitly shoot down before you get the picture? Do they have to reject every possible idea for a change before you get it?

It would help your case if things like loot trading were not going to be in classic

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

Loot trading wasn’t asked for, was forced on us to minimize tickets. I don’t like it but I’m accepting that it’s there.
But one change. Put in by blizzard for blizzards benefit doesn’t open the gate for you to ram through 15 other changes.

[Sabetha-turalyon (Sabetha)]

Has Dual spec been shot down?

Really? You really need them to tell you that this isn’t going to be in Classic? Really? REALLY!?

You have got to be one of the most dedicated trolls I have ever seen. You just don’t let up. There’s no way you’re that dense. No human could possibly be that dense. You have to be a super dedicated basement dwelling troll.

Apparently yithesins pointing out an authentic experience doesn’t mean crap.

Blizzard could post an actual list of every post-Vanilla change saying they wont be adding it to Classic and people will still go “but maybe if we post enough, they’ll change their minds!”.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

Considering they’ve already said no to.
Linked rewards.
Transmog.
Flying.
Balance
LFD LFR

And I see those still asked for…

[Sabetha-turalyon (Sabetha)]

What’s funny is that people think Blizzard will change their stance on a position they’ve been adamant about when in BfA half the time they don’t even listen to the playerbase when they claim they’re taking feedback into account.

[Melaned-blackrock (Melaned)]

It would help your case if things like loot trading were not going to be in classic

Context plays a major role in the very few changes that have been made. It was given at/during Blizzcon.

Things like duel spec do not meet such given points, only points for things that have already been shot down such as balance and flight.