Thats pretty much just for Season 3 and was quite literally just for M+. Raid they still ran Necro. Ele was predominately Necro Lord for the whole expac at roughly 60% for both seasons 1 & 2.
“I don’t blame you coz heroic only players are pretty bad at presenting an argument in a good-faith manner and not trying to misconstrue data to prove a point.” Imagine if I talked like that right? I’d sound like a person who likes to smell my own farts.
Imagine being this toxic while making a bad-faith argument.
Sources:
Season 1: https://www.wowhead.com/news/covenant-choice-popularity-for-shadowlands-dps-tank-and-healers-using-wowranks-319716
Season 2: https://www.wowhead.com/news/tracking-covenant-popularity-in-shadowlands-for-the-end-of-patch-9-1-324718#shaman
Season 3: https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/67216-final-shadowlands-season-3-covenant-popularity-chart/
You are so bad at this it is actually a joke. This all started because I said you must not have done arenas since you said no one played Necrolord. You are actually inept in this entire discussion. Just stop if you can’t remember what you said.
I can’t tell if he is a troll of just clueless. What is sure is that he is a really uninformed player and very likely on the extremely low end.
It’s just typical behavior on the forums. Whats next is he’ll respond to those stats with some argument about only meaning to discuss season 3 despite being overly toxic about it and framing his statements as if no Shaman played Necro for the whole of SL.
Or he’ll be like “those sites only looked at X, y, and z, and didn’t account for a, b, and c” and then be silent/deflect if we are to ask him to provide sources that back up his statement.
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Thats why i love warcraftlog. You can tell who is the bad players by just clicking a few times LOL.
You are not only bad and on the low end, you didnt even play shadowlands.
You are a 1750 lifetime 3s player lmao, you know all about being a really bad player. Also it’s news to me that I didn’t play SL. You are as bad at research as you are at playing.
Interesting you seemed to not even attempt to address the sources that contradict your statement and just go to name-calling another person as if it’s relevant to the conversation. Really good look there bud. Especially if you look at his achievements its pretty clear he was playing during SL.
MB I forgot the possibility he tries to go for the ole “well you’re actually a bad player” route.
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I think this is where the communication in general is breaking down. A lot (I’m not going to say all) of us saying we don’t like Primordial Wave or want it removed/reworked play Elemental. You play Enhancement, or at least your posts make me think you do. I can only speak for myself, but PWave is a really lackluster button to push on top of all of the other buttons I have to push in both a ST and AoE rotation.
Honestly, Pwave isn’t even the root of the issue, it’s Flame Shock having a cool down when it’s so integral to both rotations and Lava Burst itself. Enhance can spread Flamshocks via Lava Lash. I can either press Flameshock every six seconds to multi-dot an AoE pull or use a totem with a 45 second cool down to apply Flameshock and then hit Pwave so I can have Lava Burst AoE for each Lava Surge proc inside of the 12 second buff from Pwave. That 12 seconds feels amazing with all the Lava Bursts flying out and auto-critting because of Flameshock, hot damn. Then that buff expires and our AoE feels, to me, really bad. Playing it feels like doing more work for less payoff when I can get on my destro lock and Immolate every mob, without a cool down, and then Rain of Fire (proccing Ritual of Ruin for free Rain of Fires AND a free infernal) for more damage than my Elemental AoE is doing.
That type of response is aimed at other enhance players mainly as there are a large amount that also want it removed.
As for elemental’s issues, I’ve been trying to advocate for Pwave to apply Flameshock to the target and 5 other mobs around it in order to address Flameshock spread since it would cut down GCDs for setup and you’d have a back up options for spreading Flameshock if needed. It would also help with Enhance as well given Lava Lash only spreads to 4 instead of 5.
But that’s the fundamental difference between how Enhance is and how Ele is (sort of). What I mean by that is Enhance’s pwave cleaves a spender (and Enhance’s spenders are actually worth casting [whereas Ele’s are not a lot of the time]).
It’s the same issue with Tempest that we’ve said since day one. For Enhance, it replaces a Spender. For Ele, it replaces a builder. It just feels like, at its core, it’s made for Enhance.
I play all 3 Shaman specs in PvE and PvP so I probably have a unique perspective here.
I think Elemental needs to be using CL and EQ in AoE. The Lava Slinger build everyone is using is amazing in PvP (offensively) but it is severely lacking in 5 mans (I don’t raid so I won’t comment on that).
Elemental is actually my favorite spec and I don’t even play it right now because I can’t stand how it plays in 5 mans. I couldn’t stand the lightning build either. I’m not sure why Blizzard is refusing to make CL/EQ our loop, but until they do I won’t be playing much Elemental.
Edit: and let me add that while I believe Enhancement is a well built spec, it truly is awful defensively in all content. The Elementalist build is fun, but I don’t understand why Blizzard insists on one of, if not the hardest specs to play, being a glass cannon. It doesn’t help that many healers in 5 mans expect you to use your MWS to heal yourself, which feels awful.
Good point here too. Flame Shock needs to spread easier for Elemental. Again, not sure why Blizzard drags their feet on simple issues like this.
Should be on the class tree too since each spec uses it and it’s mandatory for farseer
Unsure about having it on the class tree given that Pwave on its own is one thing but gets the most of its value from additional talents associated with it. Pwave also works off of different spells for each spec so there might be some spaghetti code stuff but I’m not a programmer/developer so I might be 100% off.
However, I am for it if they can get it right because it’s one more point for each of the spec trees which is huge since we all suffer from point flexibility in each spec tree.
Thats the thing that probably aggravates me about DF tuning is Pwave not being adjusted to toss Flamshock on other mobs too. Enhance we got a 5 GCD ramp to get it on 6 targets while getting CDs out, requiring manually putting Flameshock on another mob which leads to a lot of resource waste and hampers burst. I wonder Resto would appreciate something like that too with it applying Riptide to the targets and 5 other nearby targets.