The same three trolls, all operating together. It would be cute if it wasn’t so vile.
Who cares what we parsed. We don’t play the game together and do difficult content for the parse. The fact that you are so fixated with it makes me wonder if you don’t need to take a step back and ponder why you’re so concerned with such transient matters.
In any case, let’s drag this back on topic before anyone gets a well earned forum ban.
The problem with range is a persistent one, in all areas and specs of evoker, and here’s hoping they will better address it now that they have acknowledged it.
Because you keep making definitive claims on the health of the spec when you don’t even understand it.
Because not being able to take advantage of the BASICS of a spec (like dying without using key defensives) is indicative of your understanding (or lack thereof) of that spec and class.
Because without any evidence other than “because there are lots of posts on this forum” when the data backs up that the range is, in fact, not hindering the class, your argument falls flat.
Continuing to post like some thought leader on the class and proclaim what’s not working when you legitimately just don’t even know the spec enough to say that with any confidence is the epitome of misinformation.
It’d be a different story if you were making these claims with actual data to support it instead of forum feely-craft, but you’re not.
It’s the fact that you think you need to play at the highest level to have a valid opinion on its state that proves you don’t have a good idea of how class design really functions. You’re going to get a lot of input from all levels of gameplay and, sorry to disappoint you, it’s all valid.
Furthermore, the problems concerning range have, in fact, come from all levels of gameplay.
Yet all you consistently do is claim I, myself, am somehow the greatest source of grievances when it’s been shouted from the rooftops how troublesome the short range is. For a long time. Thought leader. What a joke.
Do feel like demonizing and critiquing me is going to somehow change that? You’re fighting a losing battle against public opinion that even Blizzard has acknowledged.
Yeah it seems they are really force feeding the idea of a mid range caster when it’s just counter intuitive to the caster gameplay. They need to increase evokers range to 40 yds. And that’s no questions asked. We have tried it. It was fun to do something new,but it just doesn’t work.
However, it would work with a physical ranged damage dealer and I think that’s what should happen with hunter. They should make hunter 25 yds flat and make abilities like aimed shot be cast while moving. I would even go as far as making it be able to be kicked as well.
But, the bottom line is mid range doesn’t work for magical ranged classes. It will work for physical ranged classes and that’s what it should be. It would solve hunters 2 shotting from 40+ yds without being able to see it or doing anything about it and then being nerf ed again for the next 7 seasons because everyone’s sick of it.
I don’t think you need to play at a high level to have an opinion/not like the range. By all metrics in mythic, I’m average at best.
I think without any data behind you, you need to play at a high level to claim that something “doesn’t work” or is broken.
There’s a massive difference.
Public opinion is not the same as something “not working”.
And I just logged in and still have 25 yards as dev, so it seems like you’re on the losing side so far.
Blizzard acknowledged that they didn’t feel the healing spec was adequately compensated for the range. What was their response? More range? Oh wait, no it wasn’t. It was more throughout and survivability.
Where did they acknowledge it’s a problem for the DPS specs? If they’re not giving pres more range, why do you think the DPS specs, who need it far less, would be getting it?
See, this is it right here-- mid range does work and has all expansion.
That doesn’t mean you are required to like it, but it absolutely means you’re wrong to say it doesn’t work.
I’m not a world class gamer. I just understand the difference between opinion and fact.
This is based on what, the literal one lfr boss and zero dungeons that you’ve done on an evoker this entire expansion?
I personally don’t care what happens to it as long as the class keeps the same feel, but it’s crazy that 99% of the complaints about range are from people that can’t play the class at a very rudimentary level, or just straight up haven’t done any actual content with it.
Playing with the world’s worst teammates I had issues on a resto shaman in shadowlands. Couldn’t effectively use healing rain or chain heal.
As for the range issues, that’s a positioning issue on my part. Pres evoker is a lot easier to play than holy paladin (cause I tried that during Shadowlands, twice.)
Imagine needing to stand in melee… and needing to do melee mechanics.
Boy I told myself I wouldn’t respond to the two biggest trolls on evoker forums that feed off each other (probably the same person) but I guess I’ll bite.
I didn’t ask what blankwave and battlecruisr thought on my feedback reply nor do I care. Simply putting an idea that i find to be a better solution as a whole for the game going forward.
No offense but I’ve seen many of your guys’ (feedback) and it only consists of barking at other players ideas and contradicting every thread you can come across in a day. No thanks
Wow people actually defending Preservations range like is Preservation powerful yes it is but the range can be a serious issue with ranged DPS who are used to healers with 40yd range. Like I have used Rescue to try and move them closer to me so I can atleast get a HoT on them just for them to instantly run off and out range me.
Like is it that hard to stand still for a couple seconds so I can get a Temporal Anomaly and Dream Breath off before you run off.
People’s inability to play isn’t a class design issue. It’s like asking Shaman to heal spread out players. (Ineffective.) Imagine if people spread out during prideful. They will be dead.
“inability to play around your chosen spec” would be more accurate and no I wouldn’t consider it a class issue more a game design issue. Like my partner is far better at the game then I am yet seen her do the exact same thing like not a skill issue just people playing the game as they’ve known it since Vanilla with 40yd range healers and then in Dragonflight Bliz basically threw a wrench into the gears by giving Evoker a shorter range and a bunch of directional AOE spells.
In short Evoker is not advanced to play it’s advanced to play with.
Edit: sorry for the quite late reply didn’t realise I hadn’t pressed send >.<
