Nah, I’d rather retain what is unique.
Like this allows Blizzard to overtune VE because it can be reasonably assumed that it won’t be used at full power.
I definitely think pres needs tuning for m+.
I can’t speak for PvP, but 5 man content has been a real challenge compared to other classes.
I love the class, but I do have gripes about it.
There is so much setup needed to do decent healing.
Maintaining reversions, call of ysera, spiritbloom hots, being mindful to not waste echoes or lifesparks, or accidentally putting a wrong spell in stasis.
All of this on top of dealing with the shorter range.
It’s a lot of work for not a lot of payout.
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My biggest gripe with Pres in PVP(Arena specifically) is how lackluster the DCDs are considering their cool down.
You can’t always predict the need to press emerald communion and prepare lifebind on the whole team in advance(mostly because you’re going to need to use it in CC). And without that it doesn’t heal for much. And Rewind is such a bad save as well considering it’s a 4min cd(you can’t realistically take the lower cd talent).
Damage is so spikey in arena right now that I have people just flat out dying through both EC and Rewind all the time.
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I don’t believe that Pres needs to be redesigned to match certain fights, I believe a better option is to simply give Pres more movement and instant-cast abilities to allow it to move to locations where healing is needed.
One idea I had was to have abilities like Hover and VE reduce the cooldowns or increase the power of Emerald Blossom and Dream Breath. That way you get rewarded for movement.
i don’t know if it’s just me but when i heal 12’s on my pres compared to majority of other healing classes
it’s day and night some times
sure it feels great burst healing but it gets to the point where i have to
push too muny buttons … where when i play on my shaman or dis priest the
complexity greatly diminishes
not saying they should make them easier my opinion … we do harder work we should get better results … not the same hps as some one using 4 less buttons
(not raging just an opinion)
if anything buff or a small QoL change would be welcomed
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Pretty sure if I’m doing 12s, I’d just spam emerald blossoms. (Gear power should allow for that.)
It’s as complex as you will it (although inferior style of healing has limits to how high it can go.)
At some point (higher than where you play) playing properly might be needed.
I think a good buff might be to extend Lifebind from 5 to 6 seconds in Mythic (in raids it can stay 5 seconds). 5 secs seems super short in dungeons.
No range buffs needed.
Does the echo base healing even do anything? it only does like 100-120k healing now what is doubling that going to do if you apply echo prior to damage due to global constraints with burst damage lol?
QOL maybe in 11.2…? this is meh…gameplay loops still awkward.
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Just chiming in to point out you’re plain wrong as Pres received PvE buffs 2 times in a row, and this second batch is quite significant…
Our dear thread creator scoffs at those buffs lololol.
Evidently, not enough for him!
It’s like +1 key level I wager (at best.)
Which given lack of power vs disc, kinda, well, yea.
No cure for our player here. You don’t have to play the theoretically maximum output loop in content that you’re doing. Healing invisible damage isn’t exactly fun, so play actual content.
If you read i scoff at the echo buff that is practically a nothing change with how the spec uses echo.
But here you are AGAIN using your posts to insult others remarks as an opening and closing statement.
The spec still has awkward/ bad gameplay loops that are not obvious or very awkward. Not to include the specs CDs are VERY buggy in some content as they require dmg to you+ other to constantly be saved over 5 ish seconds and there are SO many ways it breaks whether its PvP and other specs breaking it or content in game where some damage does not register.
pres can also perma sleepwalk and move while casting ?
so can other classes with a larger than 30 yd range? + those same classes 2 of 4 of them can purge spam your immunity off?
With my other healers I’ve always played the game and reacted to what’s happening.
With my Pre-Voker I’m playing my buttons/combos and memorizing when raid wide damage phases happen…
I think there’s only like 14 seconds out of every minute that I’m not running through a predetermined set of button presses done in a predetermined order.
It was somewhat shocking to me just how much better my Pre-Voker raid performance got when I started to ignore much of what was happening around me.
I just run the ability combos to maximize my heals and pretty much let the game decide what targets get hit. A lot of what my pre-voker does is ranom AE and HoT anyway.
Much of the time I just target the boss. I only have one of my buttons macro’d to target.target .
It feels soo wrong but works soo well.
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Unless you’re doing +15s or mythic raiding, there’s no real need for that.
It’s of course better, but still.