You say that I’m sealioning/gaslighting? Well, I really don’t understand whether you are genuinely coming to this conversation to try to offer something or if you’re just here to attack someone with a different opinion.
Would you mind answering these questions?
Personally, I do solo queue, and the experiences that some people are describing here simply are not the experiences that I have had. I’ve stated several times (I’m not sure if you’ve seen my other posts, and I don’t expect you to have memorized them obviously) that I understand that it’s very possible for people to have different experiences with queues. There are a lot of people playing this game!
I also have a reasonable understanding of how taking a random sampling for say 3-10 matches in a history of tens, hundreds, thousands or more may not be anywhere near reflective of overall averages.
What I have noticed for myself is that I tend to queue into far more pug vs pug matches than pug vs premade matches when I queue solo. I’ve also noticed that my teams tend to do better when I am actively paying attention and trying my best than when I am distracted.
Of course, I am not saying or even trying to imply that this is proof that my anecdotal experiences are or have to be true for everyone. I’m merely stating that this the basis for my own biased perspectives.
In addition to this, I do not buy the narrative that people are genuinely queuing to have fun, do the BG objectives and are just getting demolished by premades. I very much stand by this:
I don’t know who you think you are addressing with this, and as stated above, I don’t expect you to have memorized all my previous posts or anything of the like, but I’m not of the particular belief that most BGs, premade or pug are particularly professional skill levels.
I think there are definitely some people who are very good at the game, and they might premade, but I also think that (I could be wrong - it’s just my opinion based on my own experiences and biases) that the vast majority of premades are just random trade-chat pug groups that have been put together through /LookingForGroup with a decent composition and no comms who will roll over, quit, throw, argue internally and even /afk out of the game if they face any difficulty.
So, I do not for a minute believe that a random pug group of players who are level 25 and have put some effort into gearing, such that they are in prebis with some raid gear (e.g. an average pug group) will be at a massive disadvantage versus an average premade, other than not having a good composition (they may have 10 warriors for example, and that would be tough, but still there might be some possibility of winning).
My issue is, and always has been that I do not think it is OK for people to queue into PVP Battlegrounds, then do absolutely nothing, or worse start berating their teammates for trying, while calling to “just let them cap.” “stop reviving.” “let them win.” “the game is over.”