I don’t get why people still parading about premade changes. If you don’t like it move on, go play retail or some other game, this game is not for you. This is a recreation of classic with all it’s imperfections that believe or not some people enjoy. Rank 14 is like many other activities in classic a social grind you need to socialize to get into premades that’s just how it is.
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^ This.
If anything, premading is going to become progressively more popular, esp. at lower brackets, as twink guilds gain in popularity.
I don’t know this to be true, but I suspect it to be the case. Especially since the people behind the Classic Dueler’s League are starting to put some effort into raising Twink awareness, with an exhibition match planned for May 6th “Twink WSG Exhibition Match,” to promote level 19 twinking as a fun activity.
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It’s almost like Classic WoW is so popular because it encourages interacting with others and making friends to play with…
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If you’d spend as much time getting good at PVP as you did typing this wall of text, you’d be able to get into a premade of your own and learn to play.
In any case, Imma invoke the #nochanges rule on this one. I got to rank 12 and I’m done with the grind. Why should you have an easier time than me?
Some things in Classic are meant to not be obtainable by everyone. If you want to get the same gear everyone else has, well, you know what I’m going to say next… Go BacK tO ReTAiL
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No changes yet the reason this is a problem in the first place is the cross server bgs…
cross-server brings more changes than just that. Like bigger player pool means less diminishing returns for killing people you face in BGS. If it was server-only, DR would be applied hard…
Still, doesn’t change the fact that people who achieved rank 10+ with what we have now and achieved their gear don’t want it handed to casuals like OP. Either put in the time like everyone else, or just get raid gear.
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It will always be hard to rank no matter if it’s prenades or not. Premades will still have an advantage in these new ques in that department
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Well…to be fair, we have ingame voice chat.
Blizzard cannot do something as simple as making pemade vs premade, PUG vs PUG matching. They couldn’t make a match maker work for HOTS.
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Most of the early premade groups were rank 1s and streamers, aka people who have the time to put into the game. I got rank 13 on this mage and played with “mostly” competent players. Some skill is required to outfarm others on your own server since you need to win the majority of your games against other premades to be competitive. That said, anyone who says the rank 14 grind requires more skill than say Glads, has never been a Glad.
Thank you for your respectful reply Sléeze.
I liked the close games way better. Win or lose. When the allies would give up there wasn’t a lot we could do about that. AB became a game of guessing how they would give up. I can’t say the HPH was complained about. There were only like 5 good games on the whole AB weekend.
As a druid I’d flag carry a lot in WSG, I’m even still willing to help out with this on occasion. Anyway. Flag carrying is like a mini-game. My team is off fighting in the middle and I’m doing it myself (even though I’ve heard I’m supposed to have a mage or priest backup or whatever if needed this didn’t usually happen because they wanted the HKs, well I sometimes did have help with my main team - I’d get like 8 HKs when they’d get 30 often).
So with the mini-game of FCing I didn’t mind WSG so much. If we did not cap the first flag we would give up and farm HKs normally as my premade teams had no desire to fight past that. 90% of the time it was the same alliance side where they would give after the first cap. If they kept trying and they were not on our server we would always ask why they were trying so hard as they have instant queues. So yes it was fight for the first flag and then give, like some sort of universal thing in most premade vs premade games where allies didn’t give up right away.
We did have a few games that really annoyed me. In one game I was not with my regular team. I got the flag back which was tough that time requiring consumes etc and I had NO help at the base even though I called for it. Them: “Moo they beat us mid we are throwing this game” Me: “But I got the flag back can we not at least try” Them “No the game will take too long, just come farm HKs, sorry for not telling you earlier.” Me “WTF, seriously?”. I didn’t run with those guys again. It pissed me off too much.
So anyway yeah I did what I had to do no it wasn’t fun at all times. I love PVP and competitive PVP.
I agree, but there is this opinion that rankers suck at PVP and they will completely fail at arenas which is ridiculous as most rankers I know love PVP. They seek it out and thus have done or should do fine in arenas. Most talk about what they are going to play in arenas “when TBC comes” etc during queues. Obviously being rank 14 doesn’t mean you can get Glad and it is absolutely a measure of time sink first, but these are people who enjoy PVP or they wouldn’t be spending their life rank grinding.
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Zecius and Omnivore’s teams were pretty much all Heroes of the Horde and rank 1s, liiiike… they arent better than you because they are premade, they are just better than you (collective “you” btw).
My team at its peak had a few multi rank 1s, and at least 2 Heroes of the Alliance, it also had a few dragonslayers who were good at their class but had to learn a bit about pvping.
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Hmm i wonder if this helps. 
Another idiotic comment
He thought he wanted classic, but he didn’t.
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Hi, youtube.
Another necro. Good way to splinter discussion while insulting posters from April. Reported for spam.
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Change it so premades can only face other premades (6 or more players), end of discussion. The only reason ppl dont want it to happen is because it would make them actually play the game and slow down their honor per hour.
Or we want to play the original version of the game.
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Well it isnt the original version of the game since it already has cross realm bgs, overpopulation, more resources availible, etc… Making it premade vs premade would fix the changes already made into the game which make it unplayeable for small groups or solo queuers
Were in place by end of vanilla. Yes, they botched launch and layers are a band aid. That doesn’t mean that their intentions have changed one bit.