Premades are fine, this is an MMO

Wait until you discover RBGs - EVERYONE is with friends and there’s even a ladder! You OP will love it.

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Plenty of Solo content in WoW.

Playing with your friends? That’s fine. Playing in an Epic Premade? That’s not fine.

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This is a MMO. To experience the full story while content is current, groups will be required.

What everyone has been waiting for… Your specific approval on how content should be done lol

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I can experience the full story of WoW without ever needing to meet people and form a group myself.

true but you will still be grouped up with people at some point for the story. Not a solo player game :dracthyr_a1:

sounds depressing lol

The argument isn’t “You’ll need a group at some point” it’s “Premades shouldn’t happen in Epic BGs”

I can queue into an epic BG solo. You need to circumnavigate current queueing restrictions in order to get more than 5 people into an Epic BG. Now with the introduction of Solo Shuffle, rated can even be achieved as a solo player.

The only endgame that you can’t solo queue into at this point is M+. 6/9 of your vault each week can be achieved by the solo player.

I mean technically you don’t need to know anyone to push M+ either. +10 to 12 you can LFG easily and never say a word to each other.

BGs aren’t solo content

You’re the only one who mention “epics”

Actually :nerd_face: Dungeons and Raids aren’t solo content :dracthyr_shrug:

Are we talking about premades or queue syncers? :thinking: you guys should make up your minds

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True, but I didn’t want to include the LFG tool just because it requires an extra step. For a true solo casual experience, the LFD and LFR and Solo shuffle work just fine.

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Dude what point are you trying to make? That people should be free to team-stack and farm randoms because the game genre has the word multiplayer in it?

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Look we can argue semantics all day, Is it accessible to the solo player? Yes. Can a single player be the difference between a win and a loss in a BG? Yes.

Nearly every anti-premade thread on the forums pertains to Epic Premades. The ones that aren’t, need to be deleted.

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I’m just curious how you would know that unless you were creating all of the posts

So when you see the headline of the thread, the first post usually elaborates on the topic. If you read that post, you can generally get an idea of what the OP is talking about.

Responses like this are exactly why I am the way I am :dracthyr_shrug:

You guys have no clue what you want or what the actual topic is about

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Epic premades shouldn’t be a thing. I can’t speak for the other guys. I don’t know those guys. I think the fact that you are trying to lump everyone with a vaguely similar opinion into a group is part of the problem. It’s not like we meet every Tuesday on discord to go over our plans to overthrow the patriarchy.

If you want to argue my point, you’re welcome to it, but stop throwing other people’s arguments into mine.

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Same stuff for the last 15 years. However long it’s been.

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Its an action RPG, get it right.

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Honestly, the more I hear people grousing and complaining about premades (and syncers, too) the less I give AF. That’s right: the constant complaining is having the opposite of the intended effect with me. I’m beginning to root for the premades (and the syncers).

I mean, what’s with all these self-righteous “Lil’ Mussolini’s” on the forums, constantly telling people how they’re supposed to play the game? You want to know why the “Problem” of premades (and syncers) has never been addressed? It’s because it’s not a problem! Yeah - that’s right. I said it. Shocker that the devs don’t care that people group up in an MMO, I know.

Stop whining. You’re not getting sympathy by whining; in fact, in some cases, you’re just pissing people off. Do we need another “Anti-Premade” QQ thread every second day? How many years worth of pointless crying is it going to take for you to realize that premades (and syncers) aren’t going away?!

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This brings up an excellent point on the topic of premade epics and why they shouldn’t be allowed. I don’t think this thread is the place for it though. Brb, i’ll just make a new thread.

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If there’s a pervasive botting problem, should we not complain about it because it might have the opposite intended effect on you?

We’re shocked.

Uh… It’s an actual problem and it has been addressed several times. Ask what happened to the oQ addon used for forming full premades in random bgs. Ask what happened to full premades in Ashran.

Yeah, cheating will always be a problem. Doesn’t mean we should accept cheaters and not say anything.

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