Premade's are a problem

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

you replied to me so

[Aredea-eldrethalas]

So? that doesn’t make it a “jab at you” lol you are simply just selling yourself out honestly

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

@Aredea-eldrethalas

lol you are simply just selling yourself out honestly

how exactly lol you ppl are soemthing else entirely

[Aredea-eldrethalas]

you people? what do you mean by that?

[Jugaa-arthas (Jugaa)]

Eh, BM is still a good achievement to get.

[Battlemaster-stormrage]

I disagree, comp stomp might as well null AB and warsong scramble throws 10 flags at you and eots was always the easiest

[Jugaa-arthas (Jugaa)]

You get achieves in comp stomp? Imagine how easy “We had it all along” is then.

[Kennie-malganis]

@Jugaa-arthas

You get achieves in comp stomp? Imagine how easy “We had it all along” is then

Yeah, it’s a freebie and the rep is doable from scratch in like a day or two. I think that they made a horrible mistake by enabling achievements but it is what it is.

[Holycow-uldaman]

@Marakai-bloodsail-buccaneers

What amazes me is how these elitists in these threads can troll and throw personal insults around and the mods do nothing

People are scared of these bg forum tyrannists.

@Aitirn-barthilas

As for the premade issue… how many threads and posts have there been about it? A lot.

^

@Tavlina-stormrage

That made me laugh

Same.

@Dooman-area-52

Farming is done by Ruin in IOC

Those are not fun games for the pugs.

@Kthis-shandris

cough RUIN cough

@Gardunkle-moon-guard

premades just run amok w/o check.

@Icaawul-ashkandi

It’s about stomping on pugs with ez mode on.

@Mizriz-emerald-dream

all druids

^^^^

@Toiletcloggr-tichondrius

PVP in this game is already dead

It’s gonna get even worse with Holinka leaving.

@Griftiest-alleria

the most fun BGs I’ve been in were pug on pug battles where people see the fight through and work together. There’s something really nice to experience when complete strangers can suddenly work together organically.

^

@Insomnya-sargeras

what players CAN do is sync que. SO who are you to say we can’t? We manifestly can. And there’s no indications from Blizz that there is a problem with it.

If Blizzard is ok with you bringing in premade raids, they’d let you queue as one. Why would they limit you to 5-man parties?

@Alaydrica-windseeker

If you are queueing 10-15 into a single BG, you are an outlier, and skewing the outcome of the match massively in your favor

@Alaydrica-windseeker

Blizzard intentionally removed raid queuing for epic BGs, the fact that sync queueing is something you can exploit to get around that, does not mean that blizzard finds it acceptable.

^

@Kennie-malganis

I think that they made a horrible mistake by enabling achievements but it is what it is.

I agree.

[Insomnya-sargeras]

Alliance premade do this to win

Text chat strats
Listen to and respect each other
Follow strats
Read chats
Never Give Up

And THAT"S ALL WE HAVE against enemies

I honestly don’t understand WHAT the Horde thinks we are DOING in there…

[Aspect-baelgun]

You win because you have 40 people working together, functional compositions and kick people that don’t do what they’re told.

Vs 40 randos, possibly no healers and no expectations that anyone will listen to anyone else.

[Ziinaya-proudmoore (Ziinaya)]

Apostrophes in plural words are a problem.

[Kthis-shandris]

You have 80%+ win rate in epic BG’s and 50% win rate in smaller BG’s. Are you seriously going to sit here and tell us that PuGs can win with effective communication when your own win rate falls 30% without your premade?

[Degenratebri-moon-guard]

Sync qers… SHEEEEEESH

Reminds me of that boomy akatsuki or w/e

[Holycow-uldaman]

@Insomnya-sargeras

I honestly don’t understand WHAT the Horde thinks we are DOING

@Kthis-shandris

Are you seriously going to sit here and tell us that PuGs can win with effective communication when your own win rate falls 30% without your premade?

^ This.

[Insomnya-sargeras]

Again
We neither have nor use any tech , strat, nor methodology not available to all players.