Just for gamer science I solo queued 10 times, got matched vs pre-mades all 10 times.
No, it won’t split the player base.
When I group as a premade I want to queue vs. another premade and have a competitive sweaty match, not a steam roll vs. another solo queued squad. I’m pretty sure most gamers would feel the same way.
When I solo queue IDEALLY, I match against another hodge-podge comp and have a fun/chaotic match.
Plz fix Blizz (i know you can).
xoxo,
SoD Enjoyers
Sadly not you are an exception, most people who premade are absolutely terrified of actually fighting another premade.
People who want separate queues fundamentally don’t understand that MMOs are about socialization at their core, and you’re meant to be at an advantage when grouping. It’s… kind of the whole point. MMOs are never and have never been about parity. They’ve never been about fairness, or competitiveness. It’s about representing a virtual world.
Let me phrase it this way. If you are playing beer league hockey with a team of people you showed up with and plan to communicate with do you think you should win against a team of individuals who show up separately and get placed together? Do you think that beer league should only be either solo players or allow players to join as friends? That’s the question here. You’d have to be an insane person to suggest that friends can’t join a league together. Just like you’re insane to suggest queues should be separate.
The entire point is the socialization, nothing else. If you suggest separate queues you blatantly don’t understand this genre of game. If you want to get better, make friends. That’s the talent involved in being good at MMOs.
What’s confusing about matching comparable teams together?
If you want to play in a premade great, why do you have a problem playing against another premade?
The point is that you’re supposed to be trying to get groups yourself. The game is making the group more than it is pushing the spells. That’s what MMOs are and always have been. They are social games. You seem to just be bad at them.
That didn’t answer the question of why you have a problem fighting other premades if you are in a premade.
According to agrend, classic sucks bigly, so no one wants to play competitive bg’s and the premade vs premade queues will be dead, so they’ll never make premade vs premade until they lose 80% of the solo queue players due to being farmed to death in AB.
I don’t. Where did you get that idea from? As it is currently everyone queues together. That means premades play other premades, too.
The only solution is to remove premades all together and only allow solo q. If people want to 10 man raid do that in ashenvale. Make BGs fair for everyone.
No. The only solution is to leave it as is because it works entirely as it’s supposed to. You’re supposed to be stronger as a group. This shouldn’t be hard to understand. It’s an MMO. Learn the genre just a tiny bit, please.
Fundamental difference of opinion about what PvP should be about.
I’m of the belief that PvP is way better overall when you foster a competitive environment for everyone who engages with the system.
You believe PvP should be about the feelings of the people creating premades.
What happened in your life that made you think MMOs are competitive? Or supposed to be competitive? Or supposed to be fair? Or balanced? That is not this genre, child. Go play forkknife.
solo shuffle saved retail’s pvp, just sayin’
tldr: I suck at pvp so my only chances of winning are when I have a gigantic advantage in my favor
No thanks, let’s separate the ques and have more fair games
WoW players love their AFK farm content.
Pugs vs premades is literally the same as afking in a BG.
Stop supporting lazyness, honor should be earned not afk farmed.
I think instanced PvP you queue for should be competitive. It’s a much better experience for all involved. I didn’t say all aspects of MMOs should be competitive.
Again, difference of opinion. Thank you for your over-the-top emotional response manchild.
No, it’s not a difference of opinion. MMOs, at their core, are about socialization. This isn’t an opinion. You’re just wrong. It’s kind of a huge reason why they did all they could to segment off the Arena kids, because it’s antithetical to the game genre.
I’ll repeat it for the children whose brains are too addled to understand. Grouping is supposed to make you stronger. Communicating is supposed to make you better. This is how the game is designed, this is how this genre works. If you are upset about getting beat while you take the easiest queue sim route to the game, change your tactics. It’s not the game’s fault you’re bad at it.
Nope. Aggrend said no. It’s too late.
Because nothing says “socialization” like queueing up with the same 9 people every week to afk farm some honor against 10 strangers who can’t talk to you.
It’s only a matter of time, I bet we have separate ques within a month from today