That’s cool. I want you and everyone else to have fun. Which is why I lament how the spec was implemented. It cost a lot of people something they really loved and set a horrible precedent. I think until a 4th spec is added, or something of an admission about how they implemented current SV was a mistake, I don’t think SV will ever be safe from having the same treatment that old SV got.
And that really sucks for everyone involved, including current fans. Like, I’m not in the business of taking fun away from others, I want you to enjoy what you like lol. But I fear it may not last given that Blizz has shown they are cool with deleting specs and current SV is deeply unpopular.
So to de-evolve is a great idea? Hunters went from Spear’s to bow’s to Crossbow’s to guns, and all of a sudden lets go back to slamming our face into the enemy…
Melee hunters are literally older than WoW. They’ve been around since before Orgrimmar was built. Even if meleeing was a noob trap in Vanilla, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be built into an actual functioning spec now. Especially since 99% of that work has already been done and its current state is just the result of numerical weakness and melee-hostile encounter design.
I doubt that will happen, I think the only reason they even did it for druids is that they legit had all 4 roles from Vanilla (counting RDPS and MDPS separately). But several of old RSV’s abilities are already talents in MM now (aside from rotational traps for damage, which see my previous post). What else would be needed to make a build that is technically MM but plays like MoP SV? IIRC the pet was forgettable, MM already has lone wolf. Was black arrow that important? Is there a row it could be squeezed in on so you could take it in addition to serpent sting and explosive shot?
If today’s (or tomorrow’s) MM gives you the flexibility to be like either old-MM or old-SV, then it’s a 4 spec solution without requiring an actual 4th spec.
Unlike you, I don’t have an alt specifically for posting and don’t always pay attention to which character is selected (I probably should have switched to a hunter for this thread but it would be confusing to do it now), but I’ve seen you in a lot of threads, almost always trolling. This character did hit 60 recently, FWIW.
The two themes and playstyles are conflicting and forcing SV into MM limits both MM talent choices and old SV player choices. Blizz also already tried that in Legion and failed spectacularly.
To be clear, I understand a 4th spec is unlikely. I still believe that to be the best solution to a problem Blizz themselves created.
From what I’ve read on the other Forums a lot of MM hunters would be glad to get the SV stuff back out of their spec too. (Not only did they ruin the class for those that Like RSV but messed it up for a lot MM hunters too.)
Yep, that was part of the point I was making. MM is meant to be this sniper with controlled burst windows.
SV was a munitions expert / arcane archer that used DOTs and procs for fast paced reactive gameplay.
The two do not match up well together and appeal to two distinct different themes. SV being stuck in MM is an absurd notion, when really it shouldn’t have been deleted in the first place.
I legitimately wouldn’t be surprised if they have it planned for another rework down the road.
It got back to back reworks, all of its legendaries are recycled azerite powers, it got zero changes going into SL, and has been left to wither at the bottom despite Blizz having to know it needs buffs right now.
It seriously wouldn’t surprise me if the reason it’s getting zero attention again is because they plan to drastically change it again. Whether it stays melee, ranged, or whatever is anyone’s guess.
I mean, it was entirely predictable. We have one ranged weapon focused class. They removed one of the only three specs that even used them. BM focuses more on the pets which leaves the fantasy of being an archer (never mind the various kinds of archers) left to be fulfilled solely by MM. In exchange we got a confused melee spec that thematically is confused despite the stated reasoning for SV being removed was because it was supposedly too similar to MM.
Like, I don’t want other people to go through that. But the reasoning behind the rework to begin with was absurd.
didnt misunderstand anything, rather pointed out how wrong he is and how flawed his logic is in thinking that it’s possible for there not to be a bottom 3-4 specs as that’s not possible with ranking charts.
Dude, his issue is that the same 3-4 specs are at the bottom ALL THE TIME. Do the same 3-4 specs have to be at the bottom EVERY TIME? Of course someone has to be at the bottom, but it doesn’t have to be the same specs EVERY TIME. Are you getting the difference here?
take Survival Hunter for example, it was the top hunter spec in WoD, Legion and BFA, all the world top arena hunters played survival…