Tell me you have no argument without telling me you have no argument.
I don’t need an argument. Blizzard fortified my stance for me.
Join a premade or play av if you’re gonna whine about losing
You’re the one needing to establish an argument
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I’m just going to not play BGs at all and focus on wPVP because it’s not full of sweaty dorks in premades dodging other premades so that PVP doesn’t get in the way of their PVP grind.
Sure whatever you need to do to cope about it, including calling people “sweaty”
That term is thrown around so nonchalantly it basically has no meaning. The only thing I can derive from the term anymore is someone who isn’t bad
It is sweaty to avoid PVP to have easier games because it’s more efficient.
The old PVP system was full of cheaters who bought gold, traded wins, shared accounts, and did pool parites.
The "high level " PVP grinders are not worth emulating or playing with considering they’ve already proven repeatedly they’re willing to cheat to rank up.
This happens less often than you think for premades but you have no first hand experience because you solo q only
It’s also not a valid argument by any means because pugs “avoid pvp” in the exact same manner. They’ll give up if the wind blows on them, even vs other pugs
Oh I get it. Anyone trying harder than you cheated. I can tell you’re a big SOD fan boy
All of them? You gonna prove that?
Lolwut. Don’t you remember starter zones filled with bots beelining to the nearest GY so they could artificially inflate brackets?
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No, the PUGs avoid the known premades who dodge other premades.
If you play enough BGs you start seeing the same names over and over again and you know which premades you’re facing even as Team Solo Queue.
Buying gold, account sharing, and pool parties aren’t “trying harder”.
That’s cheating and always has been.
Considering blizzard changed the PVP system after OG Vanilla for precisely these reasons I don’t need to.
They changed the system entirely in Classic for these reasons too.
That’s why we have a modified honor system.
That’s not cheating. Blizzard literally knows what’s going on with that… it’s the equivalent to having 3 accounts to sell summons. What’s the issue?
They’re one of the people that was doing those things.
They always gaslight and lie when it comes to this stuff.
Just like GDKPers lying about the influence GDKP had on RMTs.
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So you’re now accusing me of this?
I didn’t rank to 14 in classic and never needed br1. It would be completely pointless for me to do so
It’s not in the spirit of the original PvP system, either. It’s an exploit that technically isn’t against the rules.
It is cheating It’s called “Bracket manipulation”. and people got banned for it all the time in Classic. They then cried on the Ranking oriented discords that they got punished for cheating and how it was unfair that they got banned for breaking the rules.
Just like when people get banned for account sharing.
Just like when people get banned for abusing exploits.
It’s never their fault, it’s always the game/the game dev’s fault.
Oh it is against the rules.
A bunch of them got banned on Deviate Delight for doing it and they cried all over the PVP discords about how it was unfair.
I mean, i dont udnerstand why you are so bent out of shape about people pool boosting. It literally doesnt affect you
Account sharing is against the TOS, making multiple accounts and killing the chars isnt
I really just dont understand why that even makes you so uspet. The old ranking system is gone now
It isn’t. Blzizard literally assisted the players in pool boosting by removing the pvp player pool from level 10 to 1 in season of mastery. It was literally a change to make pool boosting easier lol.
I dont think you understand why people pool boost
It does affect me.
It makes ranking easier than it’s designed to be.
Well we arent using the old system. We havent in years. Why are you so upset about it?
The new rank system is easier than it was supposed to be. Are you against the new rank system? It literally makes ranking even easier than “old system pool boosting”. Literally 100 times easier
Blizzard banned people in Deviate Delight for doing it, at least according to the tears on the Battlegroup PUG premade discord at the time. Though they could have gotten bans for gold buying and lied and said it was from pool parties because it’s less bad than buying gold.
PS Blizzard broke dungeon boosting in SoM, something I wish they’d applied to the anniversary serves too.
I’m not sure SoM is the best example to use for this argument.
People pool boost to broaden the number of total players in the PVP ranking system at the lower end making it easier to rank up because there’s a specified number of people “allowed” to be at each rank once you get above rank 10.
No they didn’t. I played there and was in the discord. People were legit lying about being banned for gold buying. you were lied to.
I’m not sure using anything in regards to the old ranking system is relevant to literally anything at all. it is gone now.
Cool. Why is that an issue? Is it because it makes ranking easier? Because thats exactly whats gonna happen with the new system in p2, itll be 100x easier. Is that a problem yes or no?
if its a problem, do you want the old system back?
If its not a problem, then what are you complaining about?