They changed it back shortly afterwards
1 Like
I play HOTS to get my PVP fix. Sad that they can’t make a solo q and premade vs premade for BG’s. Should also add a mmr system to BG’s. There is a lot the could be done to make PVP experiences better with out changing to gameplay.
Solo Q is the most popular mode in any PVP game.
I’m going to be upset if they limit premades for the 3rd time because they listen to the casuals who don’t care about BG pvp. It doesn’t work, it just makes the game worse. Stop.
1 Like
They reverted it because its a horrible change and kills BGs. Just like they reverted it in classic 2019 (i forget it if was tbc or vanilla). Maybe this time they will learn and leave it alone.
1 Like
Did they incentivize the premade queue? The premade queue was probably dead because of longer queue times and harder matches leading to lower honor per hour, not because the games were less competitive.
I find it hard to believe BGs were “killed”, as in no one was pugging them, because of this change.
You know how i know you didn’t play and have no idea what you are talking about? 
Hit me with it, alt #205
If you played BGs with the change you would know that it just made them worse. The vast majority of pugs have no idea what is happening and give up first wsg cap/after BS fight is lost in AB. RNGing into healers on your team is not fun.
Also, people would rather not play BGs if they have to sit in a 40 minute queue to maybe have decent games. It just leads to good groups wargaming instead of normal queuing, making the wait even longer, which leads to more people quitting BGs.
1 Like
playing with pugs sucks, id rather not play than have people waste my time and give up minute 2 of a bg and a lot of people feel the way i feel
1 Like
Yeah, they’re not quitting BGs. R14 is easier to get and the gear is too good.
So play in the premade queue.
I can just rank in AV lol
3 Likes
Boys are already setup to summon as soon as they pop.
1 Like
I’m not waiting 20+ minutes per queue lol get real
Yeah, so the premade queue was dead because there was no incentive and you’re crying because you couldn’t stomp PUGs with your premade, and you also couldn’t carry a premade even though everyone seems to be so bad in them (by your account).
BGs weren’t dead, they were fair. So you didn’t like them and you quit them. They didn’t die.
1 Like
Again, you weren’t there and have no idea what you are talking about.
Also your idea of fair is: half the enemy team stopped playing / lol they had no healers easy gg.
They also reverted this change both times they implemented it, so…
1 Like
No this is your idea of fair… lol.
The issue was that they didn’t incentivize the premade queue. Blizz is too thick to get this kind of stuff right, most of the time.
Again proving you didn’t play
You already proved my point thoroughly. You rage quit the game when you had to actually compete with other premades or with other pugs. Blizz coddling you won’t change that fact. I already said that I didn’t play SOD, so there’s no proof needed as I don’t claim to have played it.
This isnt reality tho
The only way youll make a “premade q” work is if you grant it separate rewards, kinda like arena rating gives different rewards
Without that, the end goal is still the same - so that means the thing that matters most are the lower q times. (HPH, if you will)
People premade for 2 reasons: To eliminate some or all of the morons that are in their games and 2: premades are structured for the most part whereas pugs are not. This “you just want to stomp pugs” is a worn out Red Herring fallacy and blizzard obviously agrees with me because they reverted the change. If you dont want to fight against players, wether they are bad players in a premade or better than you, you can go to AV
They absolutely were dead, LOL
No, apparently sod players said they werent. They complained about classes, racials, etc for their losses. The excuses were limitless, in fact. I was there.
And guess what? Even without premades, pugs still chanted “let them win!”
Grouping up completely eliminates these players entirely, and these players end up being in games together amongst themselves instead, as premades wont take them.
There were nearly zero wsg/ab open for the 3 phases premades were removed
1 Like
Dude you cap out of honor at 33k that first week, thats like 2 hours of PvP in the mountain.
We were capping 1.7M without BGs in 2019 classic.
We are talking a sand bar barely peaking up in the ocean to mount Everest.
1 Like