Preach's stance on flying and pathfinder

I think they quit reporting subs because they don’t want people thinking their game was going downhill (ie, they are embarrassed)

yes, I did, I never said the store doesnt generate good revenue for them

im saying subs generate far more, and losing subs also loses store purchases

so losing 7 million subs is about the biggest issue there is behind the scenes for WoW

That should’ve been a wake up call for Blizzard that they need to rethink their priorities and start listening to players more because not even Activision would survive with losing 7 million subscribers every few months

I never thought I’d agree with Preach on something. The fact that I rarely agree with him on most things, but we both agree on Pathfinder sucking and taking too long to unlock because of the time gating really tells me that the time gating is just genuinely bad.

Does anyone have a link to the video/time of the video where he says this?

I agree with Pathfinder part one. I think it’s integral to the actual questing experience not to be able to skip the world.

It’s waiting until the world is actively stale and then getting to fly a year later that’s BS.

Once your main completes the story, there’s no reason to keep you on the ground for wq

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losing 7 million subs isn’t a big deal because they like to brag about their sub numbers, its a big deal because they lose $1billion a year in subscription money

don’t know how else that could be interpreted

so yea, saying sub money isn’t an issue the same as saying losing the subs isn’t an issue

also, if you’re going to spend 10 minutes editing a post that people have already replied to and posted below, just make a new post

Well, I’ve explained it repeatedly, and why I think that. At this point I can only accept that I tried and move on. Had I just qualified that initial statement with “anymore” I could’ve saved myself a bit of time and aggravation.

Really? Lmao.

Pro fliers have always been toxic in their interactions with those they disagree with.

Yeah and pathfinder defenders are always paragons of virtue that would NEVER flame troll or otherwise antagonize those that enjoy flying on our terms NOT Blizzards

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Surprised there wasn’t a “go play Classic then” response or did I miss it?

Guess you will not be playing Burning Crusade Classic? Burning Crusade 2? What do we call the next one anyway?

Just love YouTuber says… threads

Blizzard wont recreate BC because flight is a core feature and they are trying to find ways to move people away from enjoying flight not give players another reason to embrace it

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Allowing anyone to fly changes the dynamics of the game for everyone. By your logic I should be able to demand that I be able to earn mythic raiding gear from world quests. If people want to get it by mythic raiding they can still do that, but why shouldn’t I have what I want, too?

You need to acknowledge the distinction between buying a product (customer) and making an arrangement with someone to make a unique product or service (client).
As a customer of the game you don’t have any reasonable expectation of them customizing the game to fit your personal request. You can try and demand that as someone who pays for the game they have to provide you with a green horse mount that comes with 400% increased swim speed, but it’s not going to happen. If you were a client who hired someone to design a game to your specifications you could demand the green swimming horse and reasonably expect them to do it for you for some agreed contracted price.

You think you want to fly, but you don’t.

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that is such a tired argument

how does Joe having a flying mount effect you negatively?

Joe can level faster than you? so what
Joe can skip mobs and you can’t? why does that matter
Joe can do WQs faster? and … ?

the only legitimate answer is in pvp, but even in that case, its a pvp issue, its not a flight issue

stealth effects pvp the same way flight does, but to a much greater degree, and nobody complains that we need to take out stealth

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I do wpvp all the time and love flying. It makes wpvp better. More fights. Longer Fights. Potential for Bigger Fights. All good baby.

There are a few nutcases who think flying is the worst thing to happen to wpvp but then there are nutcases who are pve-only and think flying is the worst thing to happen to pve.

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+1

agree 100%

Flight didnt kill WPvP players that get a thrill out of wrecking lower levels that have zero chance of actually fighting back killed it

PvP was so popular thats why Blizzard removed all dedicated PvP servers from retail making it 100% optional

So when you see gankers be sure to remind them that without their “hard work” camping lowbies this matter wouldve never caught the attention of Blizzard

So to all corpse campers griefers and zone disruptors this ones for you i raise my glass in your honor :beer: cheers

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How exactly? If I fly to the quest giver and arrive first and you ride and arrive second, the quests are still there. There aren’t a limited number of quests, they’re always available to all players. If I fly to a quest area and you ride there, the mobs have unlimited respawns. They don’t disappear until the next day. Everyone can complete their quests in the game. The point is, the open world is non-competitive and persistent. As such, speed of travel has no effect on any dynamic between two different players.

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Because the genre of the game is MMORPG and flying diminishes immersion in the world.

When players are flitting from hub to hub and objective to objective so quickly there’s a greatly diminished likelihood of chance encountering and cooperating with other players in the world. They might as well be playing a solo game and that’s not the experience intended in an MMORPG.