Preach doesn’t speak for me

I’m a little worried about SL but if it comes out “like MoP”, then it would be the best expansion since, well, MoP.

Anyone thinking Ion will balance the game properly is delusional. Period.

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My meaning was MoP was considered just a Kung Fu panda cop-out expansion, but in the end, turned out good because of class design.

Shadowlands is just another artificial power system with the illusion of free choice when people are considering it’s key feature, Covenants, as a system that will get continously changed throughout the expansion; making a players decision seem almost fruitless.

While I realize it might be moot for people who don’t care about balancing abilities, it does affect how your class is.

For example, one of the covenants for Affi Warlock gets a massive benefit because it is a dot spell, which Affi’s would consider a plus, while for the other two specs don’t get any interaction from that particular specs abilities.

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If that happens then I will eat a shoe. A clean shoe, but a shoe nonetheless.

Because all he does is use someone else’s opinion to take a shot at a group of people who do something for a living.

This comment right here is why he got flagged I would imagine. There was absolutely no reason to take such a low blow at a group of people who do something for a living, and who can obviously make it work. And then take another blow in the same sentence at people who enjoy watching those who stream.

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I see what you mean, though there’s a big difference between automatically panning an expansion because of surface elements (story, aesthetics, panda race) and panning an expansion because you’re shackled to a bunch of gameplay elements you feel forced into (Early Legion where you were basically married to one spec and legendaries were 100% RNG, most of BFA, possible upcoming Covenants situation). There were people who saw the ‘daily overload’ coming when it started it in early MoP with the Golden Lotus etc., but those were still nowhere near as important as WQs.

The former group missed out on a great expansion, and frankly deserved to. The latter crowd have been kicked in the teeth repeatedly and have a right to feel skeptical.

Right, another issue is that currently story elements for each “main character” are locked behind covenants i.e. Tyrande’s story or Kael’thas for Venthyr.

Which makes me wonder if this was Blizzard’s plan, have people play alts and see every covenant. Increasing playtime essentially.

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I agreed with preach… Welcome to caster dominance in M+. Esp warlocks, Boomies and locks. All because someone who doesn’t play the content thinks Blizz can balance capped AoE vs dot classes… Slow Clap

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I wonder if this is an attempted overcorrection on Blizz’s end yet again?

“They want alts? Oh, well give ‘em alts alright. We’ll make it so you’d better have at least 4 capped characters to see everyone’s story, and hope you have multiples of the same class if you like to PvE and PvP!”

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I mean it’s possible. We might see this brought up in a future Q&A

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so far his video has 1.2k upvotes and only 48 downvotes

seems like he speaks for more people than GD wants to think!

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I can’t wait for Ion to make a statement and then say they “learned their lesson” once more (they never do learn).

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I agree. However, covenants shouldn’t affect gameplay in any way. They are a more meaningful choice when they don’t affect gameplay. When they affect gameplay I am forced to choose between fun aesthetic/story and fun gameplay. That isn’t a fun choice. I want to pick what aesthetic/story I find fun and I want to pick the gameplay I find fun.

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i agree and i’ve found it weird that people attempt to invalidate peoples definition of “meaning” when they consider gameplay when making their choice. it would be nice if everyone could make the meaningful story choice while not losing out on gameplay.

but apparently if you think about your output, you lose your opinion to some of the posters around here lol

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Agreed. The only special perspective most WoW streamers have is the one that informs their e-celeb YouTube bux livelihood.

that’s ok man because he never said he spoke for you :slight_smile:

Well his opinion is trash and he shouldn’t use his platform to impact game development just because he wants it to be a homogenized high-speed-low-drag eSport experience.

i think that development should consider the players that know how to use their spellbooks over the people who cant beat lfr nzoth tbh.

otherwise we get a bunch of low ceiling content that nobody wants to do after the first playthrough i.e warfronts, islands, etc

his “opinion” is fine. he pays his sub just like you. anti streamer angst is a weird thing. i didnt even know who this guy was before all you guys started freaking out about him. watched his video, and it’s kinda just like… nothing controversial at all?

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True, like it’s almost a shock that people can be entertainers as a job. Guess this guy never watches sports, movies, music, youtube.

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Speaking of the AoE cap, I like how Dratnos explained his concerns.

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