The patches 1.10 and 1.11 changed AV by removing a ton of the NPCs. This is what made AV unique and feel like a real battle. The hour(s) long battle felt like a real war effort. A poll on mmochamp is almost entirely in favor of pre-1.10 AV. An example of why pre-1.10 is better is that the center neutral graveyard was guarded by a mini boss called Korrac. So it wouldn’t just be alliance and horde fighting, it would be a neutral boss as well. There are many things about pre-1.10 that made it special.
The mmochamp poll had 215 in favor of pre-1.10 AV and 24 against. Classic players seem to have fonder memories of the original AV.
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If I wanted to be fighting NPC’s I wouldn’t be in a pvp BG in the first place.
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fun fact:
even with all the NPCs, people will still be rushing to the end. you can change the game, but you can’t change the players.
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good thing your not just fighting NPC’s then hey …don’t que
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AV has never been a purely pvp bg though. its been a PvPvE bg.
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True, I just prefer a lower ratio of pve than the original AV had.
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Oh this garbage again?
Once again you demonstrate zero experience with early AV.
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who are you replying too? because i honestly would love to have early av.
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The knucklehead above who claims that removal of npcs and mobs increased pvp.
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The earlier version of AV the better
and I fail to get how removing NPCs, leading everyone to sprint to the end, to fight an NPC, created more PvP… AV has always been about PvP mixed with PvP.
I personally believe Bliz would rather start a new BG than rework an existing one. So the outdated BGs just get streamlined and simplified so everyone can play them on autopilot without any actual strategy.
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It didn’t? When the majority of targets switches from NPC’s to players…
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I think a lot of people have fond memories of old AV and even liked it better then what we got after 1.10 however I am curious to how active it will actually be old AV was a long drawn out battle I am just curious to how many now would want to spend upwards to an hour or more in one BG at a time.
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I think a lot of people want to play original AV 1 or 2 times and then drop it.
Which is was happened in vanilla and why AV queue times started to suck.
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Good luck rushing in original aV…
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I’ve seen it happen. Don’t know why you think mines are difficult to bypass. Players will always take the path of least resistance, especially when welfare epics (good ones at that) are at stake.
I would argue it was both in the minority, and extremely ineffective, because you got slaughtered on the way.
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Your arguments mean nothing to private server experiences :\
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People aren’t rushing 1.5 or 1.6 AV. Not gonna happen. 1.12 will just be a zerg though.
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Or in 1.12 if you don’t want a zerg you could actually use a pvp solution to a pvp problem.
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And private servers mean nothing to a Vanilla.
You COULD NOT just zerg AV in the original-1.6 versions. Too many defending NPCs - which is what made more PVP in the BG.
5 or so defenders could hold 2-3 times that number with little effort.
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