So its confirmed here that we will be receiving post nerf raid difficulty for the first tier - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7lRfTl2jI4&lc=
Why is this not just applied to normal mode, and leave heroic to actually be a challenge?
I think the people working on Cata Classic have had far too much exposure to SOD players (hence the huge communication they have had in that version, with very little on Cata) leading people to think that raids should be pushover - but thats why normal exists.
One of the big selling points for me of Cata is a difficult raiding experience, after you have gotten experience with the content on normal (after having done the raid testing weekend, the normal bosses fall over).
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Don’t think it matters. We don’t have the same time in the expansion as we did originally.
Its been know were getting a late patch since they announced it. I’m sure your raid team could make it more difficult for themselves if they get off on that.
I don’t see the downside of allowing more people the opportunity to access more content which is still more challenging than normal.
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it’s because todays playerbase is not … as … what’s the word… not as interested in progression.
also terribad at the game.
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This is no where close. It’s extremely accelerated phases. Cata will be over in 9 months.
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100% agree. I am disappointed about post-nerf raids. I also wish that decision was communicated earlier in the development process.
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I’m not, I just want the loot in there so I can enjoy the rest of the game.
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Like I said
Call me… confused
lol@Robokappa of course they are, they’re just not interested in playing 12 hrs a day doing it. It’s called having a life 
Does that mean we’re getting all these nerfs? https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_4.2.0#Dungeons_&_Raids
They did. I guess you missed it.
You’ll notice on your launcher we have 4.4
Because people complain, we as a community not only put up with that, but support it, and so do the devs.
If you want more of a challenge, play a different game.
So yes. That’s a lot of nerfs.
Yes they are 4.2 values.
Omnitron has 113 Million HP.
Originally it had 168 million.
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Normal is insultingly easy, its really naxx level
So Dragon Soul is only going to last 1 month?
That is what heroic is for, if people want to make it easy just stick to normal? What a terrible point.
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You look for a challenge when you know the starting patch was after 4.3?
Do I colour you surprised or something?
As it is right now, normal is much easier than heroic. So mission accomplished.
I was waiting to find out if raids would be pre or post nerf to decide on buying the blazing epic upgrade…I won’t be buying it for post-nerf content. Worst case the normals only should be nerfed so people can quickly gear up for pre nerf heroic.
Pre-nerf cata raids were amazingly balanced and felt rewarding to down, with none of the fights feeling impossible.
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If you’re saying heroic = normal I’m not sure how to reply, an easier heroic is not the same as normal. What a terrible take. Besides, we’ve less than a year here. If you wanted glory you should have been there at OG release I guess.