Hi all, I have been playing this game for quite some time. It is Friday night and I log on to do some pvp arena/rbgs. There is only ever 3-4 rbg groups going at a time and a hand full of arena group. There use to be over 10million players playing the game. Has the populations shrunk that much that there are no one playing pvp? I just cant understand, it is world of Warcraft how can there be only 4 groups in LGF in the entire world? my question is what happened? where are the group? is wow officially dead? or is it because Iâm Alliance do you have to be hord? (if so I donât want to pay $40 dollars per toon to transfer) can anyone enlighten me? what has happened out of 4+ billion people in the world there are only 30 - 40 in lfg? ok ill end it there pick your question.
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There are quite a bit on the horde side in LFG but I think the vast majority of players in PvP are not pugging for partners .
Just need more leaders imo. People just donât want to lead. Toward the end of legion if I didnât see a yolo group in there I would just start my own and it would fill in 10 minutes.
The game is definitely not dead even though the latest fad is to hate on everything.
Also, with the rise in popularity of discord and the communities feature, a lot of groups form outside of LFG.
I donât think itâs that people donât âwantâ to lead but trying to lead people with âinternet tough-guy syndromeâ is usually not worth the effort for most people.
On the flip side, there are people who try to lead but are seemingly just throwing mud against the wall to see what sticks and are taken with a grain of salt (kosher-friendlyof course).
I know my sample size is small but out of the 25-30 games I played in Legion, I maybe saw one or two internet tough guys.
Internet tough-guys are not always vocal. Many will see someone (for example) say âgo defend that flagâ and think to themselves âpfft, you canât tell me what to doâ and ignore them and do their own thing.
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Ok?
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No.
PvP has never been as popular as PvPers want to believe, and the reason for it lies squarely on their own behavior.
Yes and no. Some people are terrible, get killed once or twice and leave. They feel overwhelmed and just leave. PvPâers are no more or less toxic than PvE nerds who pretend Raiderio and AOTC means the world.
randoms are super popular which is what 99% of the population plays. there are so many horde that alliance queues are a minute only.
Eu/us had 1.7mil subs.
How many of those pvp?
Then split in to arena/world pvp/bgs/skirm/epic/brawls.
Then time zones.
Games dead.
The population, especially in NA alone, of WoW is currently believed to be around or below 1 million. Possibly as low as half that (NA region only).
WoW has fallen quite far from its lofty peaks. Thus the new focus on player retention through cheap to develop grind increases and removal of QoL features. Time gating, longer loot acquisition, forging making BIS gear almost impossible to ever âfinishâ, more micros, etc.
this is the new wow, which is very likely on a slow transition path to F2P
and cellular phone gaming. I think its headed for that personally. Mission boards, outpost upgrades, followers doing your stuff. All hand held device platforming.
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Dead is an overstatement ![:roll_eyes:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/roll_eyes.png?v=6" ":roll_eyes:")
there is less people playing the game in general so yea there are less pvpers too.
Dead is relative though. I love swtor, great story and I love Jedi. Have you tried queing PvP in that game? Holy smokes⌠Trust me, dead is relative lol
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Yeah man I did, I got sick of fighting the same people all the time.
How ever this game is starting to get that way.
Itâs not there yet, but the writing is on the wall.
- You are Alliance. Horde have maybe 10x as many available groups, especially in PVP.
- Itâs kind of a slow time since Conquest rewards will become obsolete next week. I expect it to pick up a bit over the next couple weeks.
- World PVP at assaults are, frankly, way more fun than rated, so I think a lot of Alliance are there instead.