No need for sarcasm. The only thing he needs to do is to wait for DB + Poly, trinket, use first Eye Beam, get it locked by CS, wait till interrupt expires, pop Meta and do the combo.
Perhaps both of you would benefit from playing in game together.
Dillon can hop on his mage or DH and you can hop on your mage and you two can do some practice by the steps 
in elwynn.
Why type back and forth when he can just show you in game? That some top tier 1v1 coaching right there
Then thatâs literally the time that you just alter, soulshape do what you can to run reset for that moment etc.
And you survive until db sheep is back for his meta
Donât DB sheep until he big metas
Right. So who do you think needs to do this first - Necro DH with his sustained damage or Fire Mage whose sustained damage is not so impressive? DH can just chuck you, while you can tickle him with Fireballs and if you use any instants to do more sustained, you wonât have them for Combustion. You canât use Ring of Fire or Greater Pyro without DB Poly because he will just disrupt them. So if nobody of them uses the mentioned abilities, who do you think will be forced to do that to just have a chance of winning first?
You donât even have to poly/ring a DH 1v1 tho even in big meta as blazing soul. DH is likeâŠ1 step above an arms warrior for mage 1v1.
If you cant frostbolt an arms warrior to death as fire mage then you arent playing mage right imo. Both classes are pretty meh, DH happens to be more annoying with the stupid demon summon heal but they still die in a 100-0 with no blur
Tell that to the guy who gets dunked on in duels by literally every class on his Mage and writes up a dissertation with a bunch of irrelevant conduit values about how itâs not user error.
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Hearing this from a rogue is just amazing lol
that kidney shot would like a word.
Prob not but itâs a good habit to have imo
Or maybe this is a guy who knows what the situation is, unlike many other posters here who are either representatives of other classes or hardly ever 1v1-ed a DH as Mage?
@Setup - didnât you just confirm my words that DH can be killed on 3+ Combustion go and you need to live till it? For first he has Netherwalk, for second - Blur + Darkness, for third - only Blur.
Like we say in military
Train how you fight.
I mean yea if heâs a super well played DH it could take maybe 3 combusts, depends on his demon procs, if he purges bust or is belf and double purges to get another.
Either way your never in any real danger from a DH. Ya they hit hard but if youâre a step ahead always, keeping frostbolt up you should be aite.
If its a real hassle just poly > eat > repoly > eat > repoly eat then nova run off and eat some more.
you can really clown most people out in 1v1s if you wanna tryhard.
Assuming you have tempest shield, blazing soul and diverted energy you should never be in any actual danger from a DH no matter how hard they try
Add me ingame, Iâd be happy to spend time and teach you how to mage. Ask Vior heâs been less frustrated lately and doing well for himself.
yes it can. You just petmove mid cast. was doing it for all of cata to duel rogues lol.
I agree with you fwiw. Just wanted to chime in that you can in fact fake seduce.
Edit: unless iâm mistaking that you mean you canât cancel-cast while itâs being channeled, which was your entire point. because it puts you on DR for free. Nvm. Iâm dumb.
Hey câmon, youâre not being fair here. Itâs 18s cd lmao
I actually donât even disagree with that, but it doesnât make DH an easy enemy though. Donât forget that CD of Arms mobility abilities are 17-20s and 30-45s, while DH has his charges on 10 and 15 sec CD.
Moreover, if you remember my replies in other post, I didnât call DH an anticlass to Mages in Blizzard post. Mages can kill DH and DH can kill Mages.
The main reason I posted it all was to see how much Dillon actualy knows about the soulbind build he suggested (with all recent nerfs taken into account) and what he could reply for a concrete example of 1v1. Why do you think I wrote so many questions to him?
As I suspected, he didnât know half of things that DHs can do against Mages and confirmed my suspicions.
Back to the topic - before my post there were so many claims that Poly is OP, but when I suggested the complainers to receive its copy instead of their major CC to test its power, suddenly there was silence. Interesting.
You literally called a high alter 60% hp
You also said youâre getting 50-0 in a half stun lmfao
Also you mentioned getting DH incapped on a soul shape which still resets your soulshape blink CD so not sure how that matters
The only point was if youâre truly screwed you can do anything necessary to wait till your next DB sheep and youâre fine
You also were saying DHs are just permanently breaking through every barrier and just w keying you to death which just isnât happening unless you perma trolled
Soulbind build I liked btw is just the cookie cutter build every mage uses man; you can optimize it more for 1v1s if you want but thatâs already nearly perfect.
Everything you do should be reactive if you need to be optimal. He is the melee. He had to try to initiate on you. You just need to chill.
I disagree with this personally. In a 1v1 setting whether its a duel or arena/skirm or random scuffed encounter in wpvp/bg
I eat DHs alive they are down there with arms for chances of beating you 1v1 once ur good on mage. They can sweat you more sure but eventually u win.
Maybe in 10.0 when our conduits get gibbed we wonât be immortal tho and if they remove blazing soul we would get slapped. Rly depends on 10.0 and if combust dmg to healthpool remains same or fire gets reworked
BFA we had that cauterizing blink carry over from legion on azerite gear. So if 10.0 gives us the same sustain we fine
I am gonna miss 11 second blazing soul though and tempest shield + diverted energy. Its great for livelording and 1vXing, the only time my 1vX shananigans stop is when a priest shows up to ruin the fun. The sound of purge spam ringing in your eardrum means its time to cut and run
I can 100% say this expansion has been the strongest chapter in fire mage existence for 1v1, 1vX and live lording.
BFA we had insane 100-0 potential with the gpyro/meteor and master blaster ignite but our sustain wasnât even a fraction of what it is now. If they had never nerfed triune we would be the bane of everyones existence
I said âAlter at 60% HPâ meaning altering back at this level of HP, not using alter itself. I did explain what I meant here later, did you read that?
Post about 50-0 in second stun was in context of a choice. Should I risk greeding a trinket getting restunned at <=50% HP if he can seriously burst me with all his modifiers and CDs? I wrote that you often need to trinket and it is still correct, especially if you get CC-ed not at 50.0%, but with less than 50% HP.
Soulshape uses first Flicker the moment you use it, automatically. So, DH incaps it and runs to you manually. When he breaks the incap or it is over, Flicker is off-CD and you can use it again, but he will just chase you with one of his charges. Donât forget, he also has 100% movespeed and you have 75% movespeed after imprisonment, so in-between Flickers he sticks to you. Even if you used Frostbolt earlier to snare him, snare lasts 8s and you canât manually refresh it in Soulshape as it will break it. When you get a third charge of Flicker, he is very likely to have one of his charges available and can just chase you.
You can wait till next DB + Sheep, but Fodder the Flame demon can easily ruin it.
If DH is sitting on you, he can do all of that. Can he sit on you? Letâs see. Your Blink and Soulshape mobility he can counter with Imprisonment and his own. What prevents him from keeping damaging you between your Flickers and just using his next charge when you Flicker again? And while in Soulshape, you canât use neither Blink nor BB without breaking it, so you just tank damage he does. Alter is used mainly to survive his burst. You can combine Alter and Soulshape to reset and appear some distance from him, but that means that you wonât have them both for the last 10-20 seconds of Meta. First Frost Nova used will get reversed back. Only with Ice Block he canât do anything and just waits until it falls off.
So, the question is - what prevents him from sticking to you like glue and breaking any shields you try to put on yourself?
It is a good build for XvX, I agree. Not so good for 1v1 though, that is the reason why I started to criticize it. Compare a full heal in block and 5.0-5.5% (after the nerfs) of your HP shield after every Blink. What do you think is better? Tempest Barrier can be used for dispel protection, but 1) they can just break it in 1-2 hits now and then dispel BB 2) it just reduces the chance to dispel something more important, but doesnât remove it entirely. 33% chance is still a large chance.
Problem here is DHs donât actually do that much HP in a single global which is all he gets in that stun
Even if he did though is why I gave that answer
Still has bought you time btw
Also heâs effectively wasted 5 seconds of his own meta window by CCing you which is a net benefit for you. Doesnât really hurt you much at all, youâre getting yourself free time anyways which is what you wanted to buy so this doesnât suck at all
Blazing soul is literally for 1v1s bro
You can switch to Cryofreeze which is what was said, but I only had argued you likely could avoid ever having to use an iceblock - I literally just gave a cookie cutter build where you can switch up talents as necessary. By all means readjust it if you need the extra help but I can run that and itâs absolutely more than fine with dealing with a DH
Idk man I feel like if youâre getting gas peddalled through every barrier by a DH as a mage youâre doing something wrong
Imo you need to actually try to lose to them, seems like youâre doing everything wrong
Link your mage and let me watch some gameplay I can make you better in an hour for some gold
So you agree that there are cases when you need to trinket second stun, good.
He wasted 5 seconds on incap, 5-10 on Alter and 10 seconds on Ice Block. Totally it is 20-25 seconds, while Meta will very soon last 36 seconds. You can waste 2-3 more seconds with DB Poly as he would just trinket it. What do you suggest next to keep him away from you? Fodder the Flame for second DB + Poly, donât forget.
I said that not about Blazing Soul, I agree that it is very powerful. I meant your soulbind build and Tempest Barrier (after nerfs) in particular.
Many things posted here can already help me improve, no need to pay gold for that 
Thatâs the time you needed for DB poly to come back up, there you go, now you reset and won.
You start with DB sheeping the meta immediatelywhich is what I said, and then he trinkets and uses reverse on nova, then you do everything else and you but time for DB sheep and novas to come back in which youâve full reset and meta is over and youâre not in trouble
No actually
I donât think that heâs ever going to do that much damage for that situation to arise, I just spoke in a hypothetical that somehow heâs just absolutely crushing you which really shouldnât happen, that itâs fine if you use your trinket to trade for his 4 min CD burst, not like youâll have another window to need to use it
Itâs again, worst case scenario, somehow everything went wrong you got unlucky in every single way possible he crits every single ability non stop stars align etc. then by all means just trinket lol, but really you shouldnât have to worry about that happening
I only gave you every possible reaction youâd need to do when in reality you mostly sit there with a pre barrier, rebarrier when thatâs broken and also have blazing soul barriers for him to go through giving you already full healthbars worth of mitigation, your life is just super easy here.
Idk man youâre nearly immortal vs DH, I just gave you answers even if youâve gotten owned in every way possible.