you can seduce 1 person, fear a second and you have 2 of 3 people in the match ccd by only 1 player so is less posible for enemy team to disrupt your seduction, seduption can be casted even when lock is los
you can’t poly 2 people as mage nor poly a los target nor cast it in a los target
Both of you low level posters need to stop
Sheep one person db ring another wow
Promise you if both teams are playing well it’s far easier to prevent or avoid a seduce go, just need some awareness
100x easier to CC the entire team as a mage than it is as a destro warlock right now LOL
It could be confusing without the first part, but number 3 does help to understand that the thread creator is different from you.
Okay, you caught me on a grammar mistake, good job!
Trash buff is only Arcane Intellect and maybe Tempest Barrier that still leave 33% chance to remove Blazing. Not too bad.
@Flapz - you can’t Shimmer to land a fear, but you can Seduce to do that.
Yeah a 1/3 that you have to constantly win or they’ll never die on top of the times you can still have alter available right after they’ve used a purge or rebarrier or times where you have a random heating up proc that makes it a 1/4 chance idk man super hard to figure out why you shouldn’t be dying in a 1v1 as a mage to those classes
Not to mention as long as you have a blazing barrier sit when they can’t purge you that’s going to self heal you tremendously with diverted energy
You can fake cast seduce
Yeah you’re right
However not really to the same degree as a regular fakecast especially because pet ai can just be inconsistent on you, and it’s far easier to play around seduce windows to begin with
Make Polymorph like Cyclone: Cannot be reapplied until it falls off.
Let’s hear the rage ya’ fellow nerds 
Ring needs people to stand still in the edge of the ring that’s more complicated and ring has a cd sedution and fear not
literally the same can be said about poly
if a mage cc the entire team that team deserves to lose
Then you wouldn’t be able to shadow word death or sac them
Wouldn’t make them immune, just wouldn’t be able to reapply Polymorph until it the debuff has been removed via timer/dmg break. Those little .1sec windows will count for something!
Glad you enjoyed my sarcasm 
Not even close dude
You’re guaranteed to get good poly goes very consistently especially with DB there for you lol
Ya if the entire team hasn’t been in that situation that’s just mage being terrible
Loving the 1400 exp max mages posting on their classic characters
DB ring is very complicated
Interesting.
So a Mage needs to have a Tempest Barrier to cover purges, a Diverted Energy conduit to make barriers heal and a Cryo Freeze to make Ice Block heal. Do you know many mages who play three Endurance conduits?
If you don’t take Tempest Barrier, chance to get Blazing purged is now 50%. Also, with current 50% nerf what stops them from breaking it and just purging Blazing then?
If you don’t take Cryo Freeze, you don’t have an emergency heal in case they purge Alter or CC it and Cauterize you.
No Diverted Energy = no barier healing.
What would you suggest here?
You don’t actually need to take cryo freeze, you could take it though. This should be your talent tree:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921558408807714816/952892949639856189/unknown.png
They’re just gunna purge off alter and your blazing barrier at the same time with a 10 second CD purge??? woahhh!!!
You literally have an answer for every one of these situations rofl.
I linked you a conduit tree and what talents to take, what more do you need?
Edit:
Btw you literally just take that talent set up 99% of the time, you take Cryo Freeze in double dps 2s, can take grounding surge vs wizards in 3s if you want to be greedy (I wouldn’t suggest you do it I have a feeling you’re not going to be landing enough CS’s) but otherwise that’s pretty cookie cutter
we started about fear vs poly, this is not a thread a void mage vs lock
but locks have Mortal Coil not sharig DR with fear and the only time a DB land in more than 2 people is because bad positioning, something a lock can take advantage too with shadowfury
Nope that would be cyclone.
Mortal coil also used as part of your kill set up and not your set up CC, with a longer CD than DB
If you just use a mortal coil to set up a fear you’ve given up so much kill pressure lmfao
DB sheeping on the other hand is literally the standard on mage set ups
you can rely in your partners as mage do because mages have no stun, all ccs in mage are broken with damage
Don’t pick words from context. I didn’t write that they would purge both Alter and BB at the same time. If they purge Alter, they can just break BB in several hits.
Okay, let’s imagine I have a soulbind tree you posted.
I need to 1v1 a DH who has such a dispel. No Cryo Freeze.
His first stun I blink out of, his second stun I trinket or he will kill me through Alter Time. I Combust him and he pops Netherwalk to survive. He Meta’s me and I survive with Alter and Ice Block because Meta is 30-36s duration, so Alter alone may be not enough.
Now I need to run away from him and reset Combustion for 1m+ because without it I can’t kill him, especially with passive magic 20%+ damage reduction. All this time he chases me with his three charges with 10-15s CD and general mobility. I can root him with Frost Nova once, he can just trinket. I can Poly him for 8-14s and kite, but he will just connect to me when it expires with 1-2 charges (as he has two separate charge abilities that can both reset while he is polied).
Question of the day - how am I supposed to survive against his sustained damage? You would say Blazing Barrier from Blink of course. What actually can happen is that he connects after my Blink with another charge, breaks Tempest Barrier (especially after latest 50% nerf) and just dispels BB with 50% chance. I have manual BB, which he will break in 2-4 seconds. What is next?
While Cryo Freeze won’t help here much, at least it will allow me to have full HP after the Ice Block and not the HP level of Cauterize or whatever I managed to use Ice Block in.
I have my discipline of grove and controlled destruction switched vs yours.
My tempest barrier is also linked to social butterfly. So essentially I always take cryo and just switch between tempest and controlled on games where I feel i need the extra layer.
The 8% damage on pyros doesn’t feel noticeable that much anyway.
Cryofreeze is ALWAYS massive regardless. Even just a few ticks is more game changing then tempest/controlled destruction.
I don’t feel its ever worth it to swap out of short blink for cryo. Maybe peak ladder games are different in that regard. Cryo just feels way too good to ever play without.