Poly/Banish griefing, how does Blizzard handle this?

Yeah here is one.

I would say that was at least 15% per second.

Every second isn’t instant, though. It takes time for the first heal to come in, as you can see in the video. This was how Poly + Fireblast could be use as a spell interrupt without healing them (until they changed it in BC).

Well I said it was almost instant, I never thought it was actually instant. But at low levels, attacking fast enough to make it so that heal didn’t get off is sometimes impossible. Unless you are a rogue or something this can easily be abused.

Most classes have a DoT effect or something that can be used to help deal damage more often, and mages don’t learn Polymorph until level 14.

I’ve never asserted that it’s not annoying to deal with, but it shouldn’t be impossible. My entire position has been that at least Poly isn’t as bad as Banish.

Most dots are once every 3 seconds, so chances are you are not breaking it before they get healed. And the scenario isn’t about what level the mage is as the mage can be any level past 14 and do this, especially if they are higher level than you and won’t go oom.

Oh for sure, banish can be way worse as they can make it so you literally can’t kill anything.

I am just saying that even if you were in a perfect situation to counter the polly spam, you shouldn’t have to try to ‘over come’ this situation. This isn’t pvp, there isn’t any real solution to this besides “Well you better hope you are on a class that can break pollys before it can heal otherwise GG”. This should be and more than likely will be ban-able. Also, this doesn’t get better with levels either. This gets worse as you get higher level when you are trying to farm mobs or trying to kill elites. I know they are on pservers but look up pollymorphing greifing and you can see just how bad it can be. Even if the heal is glitched (not sure if it is) you can still get an idea of what it would be like.

The solution os remove yourself from the situation. Flight paths and hearth stones exsist. Good luck following someone through a few gryphoon rides.

Yeah, I agree that you shouldn’t have to, ideally.

But if you do find yourself in the situation, I’m just saying that there are ways to minimize how much it sucks. Report them, of course, but also, if you keep DoTs and such up and watch the mage’s cast bar to try to time abilities, you should usually be able to kill it anyway even if it was a huge pain.

It’s like giving advice for how to survive your car falling into a river :stuck_out_tongue: Ideally, yeah, your car shouldn’t be in a river. But if it is, you shouldn’t just sit there and complain about it.

A bunch of hoopla about “what ifs”

I mean, at this point its not a what ifs in terms of if this will happen or not. It’s a when, where, and how frequent. It is going to happen as people are finding out now that it is a great way to greif. This is how the devilsaur mafia dealt with people farming in ungoro.

So basically exactly what I have been telling you a CM finally confirmed.

That said, when some behavior becomes extreme, we have stepped in before.

Will you finally take his word for it?

More or less. I’ve never had this happen to me.

Then again, I played mostly on a pvp server, when grinding was something you generally couldn’t afford to annoy fellow faction players over, as you would be ignored if you were a jerk when the other faction decided to gank and camp you.

Keep breaking the poly; the mage eventually dies because he goes OOM and poly aggro > damage aggro; kinda like mind control aggro is totally nuts.

Private servers likely have things that are incorrect regarding aggro mechanics; but that’s no surprise.

Blizzard won’t handle it unless it’s going on for hours on end. Their response would be that you can do other things like go to another area. Since it’s same faction you can try talking him out of it, just don’t sound like you’re mad at first since that’s why he’s doing it.

Reading your post again it sounds like it would diffuse pretty quickly since he just got triggered right there and not someone just looking to grief people for hours, a GM would definitely not want to help you with that since it is just simple player interaction. Also if you are questing, group up or got to another quest. If you are farming in the same spot I think both of you would want to spend more time farming than acting like kids.

Wouldn’t the aggro from Poly exceed the aggro from your meager dps and cause the npc to start beating on the mage – possibly interrupting subsequent casts of poly?

You can resheep before sheep ends.

It doesn’t matter though. Blizz CS already ended the conversation.

People are debating in this thread as to whether or not poly griefing is even possible. I know it’s possible, and I’m not worried about that.

The only thing left for me to do now is to test it in a real world environment to see Blizzard’s response. Along with a lot of other things.

This thread is over and I’m shutting off notifications for it.

Health returns on 2 second intervals or the regen heartbeat. If you break the poly before the tick it doesn’t heal. Unless you are a paladin without consecration, you shouldn’t have much trouble with this as you have DoTs and no cooldown spammable attacks. Just make sure you only attack one mob at a time so they can’t catch you off guard.

None. And none is needed. Just hang in there until that mage runs out of mana then kill the mob. Classic mana bar does not fill up at the lightning pace it does in current WoW (if the ability even uses any mana); that mage is going to have to have some hellacious mana regen to keep doing it over and over, and I don’t recall that being very likely.

Thats why I avoid attacking anything a mage is after and if I do I just go away at that point.
There is nothing that will make me smash my keyboard like dealing with a mage that does that, so now I just avoid it if at all possible.

I’ve never had this happen to me. I would think someone would get bored after awhile following me around.