Add fast mounts like in blitz, make it 25man and make the npcs tough af! If you did that give them
Rewards for actually playing fair and competively
Yeah max’s viewerbase is probably almost exclusively hardcore pve retail wow sweats. He needs this game as its his job. And given who his viewerbase is they chances are would ghost him if he quit the game.
So yeah There is a 97% chance it is just a bunch of hot air and lies and in the off chance its not its really not very much lost tbh
No, we don’t let in the riff raff.
Facts that you dislike =/= lies.
And that is the reason randoms are dying. It’s your behavior.
Not really.
Nobody is going to sit in a mismatched 1 sided fight over some “oh but have some honour and sportsmanship” reasoning especially not when the team they are facing actively searches for mismatched 1 sided fights and actively avoids fairly matched fights.
The evidence of premades actively avoiding each other is everywhere and its also not about “community and comraderaie” either cause there have also been numerous times when half if not more of a community just jumps ship to a stronger one if and when one pops up.
Basically just anything to avoid being on the wrong side of the game. The “as long as i get mine” mentality is strong in epic premades.
Stop projecting.
Right… that’s why before you got banned for saying the F word epics had way more players. YOU are the reason. You’re fragile cowardly ego. Pathetic. Also, I don’t even talk in epics anymore, because of people like you mass reporting anyone you don’t like.
théy say théy do but théy
dont rémembr wen this dog dirt prémmade axed
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Am I dreaming? Are queue syncers really advocating for Blizzard to add a dedicated raid vs raid queue for epic battlegrounds?
First, I have to give credit where credit is due. Thank you for actually speaking up and asking for changes. Almost always it’s the opposite, where someone gets some bad matches vs premades and makes a post complaining about it and queue syncers just downplay, gaslight, and insult them. So this is a breath of fresh air.
More of this from your communities, please.
I don’t think it should be solo queue. Just the current limit of 5 players, but with some changes to make queue syncing much harder. A group of 5 absolutely can have an impact in an epic battleground but it’s not an insurmountable challenge to overcome by a PUG. It’s queue sync premades vs PUGs that is the main problem.
I don’t think this would be needed. It shouldn’t be that hard to find 30/35/40 (whatever the number ends up being) players who can stay for the entire match. I think allowing a partial premade to just let the game backfill PUGs would end up harming the system more overall.
I know epic battlegrounds and just PvP in general needs a lot of fixing, but my ideas for epic battlegrounds have always been something like this:
- Dedicated raid vs raid cross faction queue for epic battlegrounds. Could be 35v35 or 30v30 for lag reasons. This will be one full raid of players being matched vs another full raid of players.
- For the PUG queue also make it cross faction, with role balancing (similar numbers of healers, tanks, and dps on each team), and match groups too (similar number of similar sized groups on each team, loosely enforced). Because it’s cross faction, this wouldn’t affect queue times at all. This would also break most queue syncing by making it much harder to do. Could even add loose item level balancing between roles. Again, no queue time difference at all.
- Buff the NPCs and vehicles.
- This last point might be asking a bit much, but fix the battleground UI to make it actually up to 2025 standards (timers, gate/boss health, objective markers. etc) and fix some of the imbalanced or badly designed maps such as hangar on IoC.
Blizzard makes those changes, and queue syncing effectively dies overnight, but the premade communities gain a lot more power to just queue up as a raid vs other raids and could more easily recruit other players without the hassle of syncing queues.
Solo and group players would have more balanced matches on average with equal healers and no queue sync premades.
To me that sounds like a win in the end for most players. I think the queue times for the raid queue might be longer of course, but healthier for the overall game.
And this would increase PvP participation over time which would help offset the longer queue times.
I don’t think we need anything fancy like rated epics or backfilling for premades or solo queue only.
Also I don’t think we should hate on the idea just because we don’t think Blizzard would ever do it competently or that players wouldn’t use it. The worst that happens is that the raid queue is dead and nobody uses it, which is exactly the same as the current situation where there is no raid queue.
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TLDR when?
TLDR: Yes.
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What on earth are you on about?
I’m not the one leaving BGs and blaming premades at the first sight of trouble.
Probably for the best given how you speak to others on the forum. That toxcity is only pushing more and more away from randoms.
I figured if there was a raid queue then to offset it would be solo queue to help prevent the current situation but your ideas are great too!
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What would be the point? It’s a well known fact that EBG communities dodge each other so they can farm pugs.
A raid EBG mode would just have 1 or 2 groups farming day or night (to avoid each other) and anyone not in those groups would just quit using the mode. lol
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I mean specifically raid vs raid only, no pugs. I can’t see a negative if they added it, if it dies, we aren’t in any different position then we are now.
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because you are the sync exploiter. People are leaving because of exploiting. Why are you blaming people avoiding cheaters? Pathetic honestly.
How ironic, just because you don’t like what someone says doesn’t mean its toxic. Talking in a chat what most people ignore isn’t pushing anyone away from the game. People exploiting and ruining games is what’s pushing people away.
If que syncing is so prevalent, and no one is getting suspended or banned for doing it, and if it really is lowering the numbers of players in these modes (Blizz numbers they see) then the hope is they will take action. Player engagement is good for the suits, doesn’t make sense they would want players to stop playing a portion of their game imo.
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these queue syncs can easily face each other right now.
all these communities share players and hang out in each others discords so they just watch for count downs to avoid each other that way: they could easily use it to set up matches but they don’t for obvious reasons.
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I still don’t see a negative if a raid vs raid queue was implemented.
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Yeah especially if it’s combined with other changes to prevent queue syncing. This would mean the dedicated raid queue would be the only viable means of organizing with more than 5 players for epic battlegrounds.
Either it would get used, which would be a win, or it won’t, which would still be a win overall.
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I think the idea is that this would force them to face each other. Now whether they would actually make use of it or just quit is up to them.
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Report me then. No matter what you call it, premades have never and will never be against the rules.
No, they’re leaving due to poor attitudes.
No, your multiple suspensions is what proves its toxic lol.
Blizzard doesn’t take action because none of that is true. If it were true, and Blizzard was actually losing money, you know for a fact they would take action lol.
Turns out a very vocal minority doesn’t actually account for the larger playerbase. 