Pls Nerf DH

You have not. You have never gone 0-6 intentionally after every lobby to deliberately tank mmr. You just made and played up an alt. What? Those are two totally different things.

HUH? Name one person who is doing what you and that druid said. Name one person who is intentionally losing rounds to “make their climb easier”.

It’s not a disagreement thing, you’re deliberately and intentionally typing false information?!?!

You disagreeing with me doesn’t make it false. Crazy.

Something being false makes it false.

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But it’s not false. Have they offered up proof? No. They have offered up their opinion though.

This is a simple game of numbers… RNG.

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There’s kind of something similar to what you’re describing but you’re a little off the mark.

Eh, I’m just going to leave it as a limitation of the means of which we are conversing. This isn’t complicated. When you drop down and build your rating back, simply based off RNG, you can build positive MMR and shoot past where your target might be.

It’s why healers going 3:3 is detrimental and why it’s harder for healers to push out of some mmr ranges. You can artificially hasten this process by intentionally losing. It doesn’t mean you’re always going to have a positive result, but it can.

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Winstreaking off good lobbies or plain luck isn’t really a technique.

Hmm, maybe. If you’re going 3-3 constantly then your mmr stabilizes, sure, but that also means you’re likely closer to where you should be.

Although around initial mmr of 1500-1800 it is annoying to have every third lobby be one guy going 0-6 and trying to peel a win off him.

Creating the situation for that to happen is.

Absolutely, but what if you landed on that CR/MMR after going 50/50 for the last 10 matches? Maybe you had a lot of bad matchups? You finally get a good win streak, but because your MMR is the same as your CR, the impact is less.

So why not try to rinse and repeat? This time, you keep winning and because your MMR already exceeded your CR, you now hit a higher rating and have extra padding built in.

That’s it. That’s all there is to this discussion. If your MMR flatlines, it can be difficult to have a breakout game.

This is actually true in some other games, but wow mmr is somewhat volatile. You could have 1000 games at a particular mmr then streak out of it normally if you are able to more consistently win games.

It is, and that’s what your taking advantage of. By flatlines, I mean your mmr and CR are the same so you aren’t getting any strong positive or negative swings. Because of that volatility, you can have large swings in your MMR range. So if you’re an 1800 player, you could potentially hit say… 2k just purely off RNG. Problem is, those conditions are harder to create if your constantly playing at 1800.

For sure. All I’m saying is you can artificially create those conditions. In the end, you still have to win. If a player did put in a 1,000 games and their top end never moved much, they’re probably close to their target. Assuming they had some healthy spikes along the way.

For 99% of the player base complaining, it’s a lack of experience and effort. We raised a generation of everyone gets a trophy. This is the fallout.

honest question, do you think this sentiment is new or original and hasn’t been said by every generation on its way out

I often think about that. I believe every generation looks at previous generations different. As a society, I personally think each generation brings something unique to the table, keeping evolution moving forward. Some things good, some things not so good. I believe people are people.

Speaking as an educated adult, that has had a successful career, and raised three successful children. I have witnessed “everyone gets a trophy”. Everyone literally got a trophy, raising my children. From sports, to education. That wasn’t the case for me growing up. Which is why I sometimes use that saying.

I led thousands of people, and watched first hand the shift from, what can I do for you, to what can you do for me. Now, I am seeing a shift to victim mentality, which is why I often reference, “The Greatest Generation” by Tom Brokaw so people can see firsthand the shift over a century.

We most certainly don’t want to move backwards, but there is a lot to learn, both good and bad, from our past. I don’t think, having a victim mentality, an erosion of work ethic, and family values is the way ahead. Again, I am speaking from my own experiences, and what I have observed as a leader. Great question!