That is all the data you need to know if a class is over represented. It’s been this way for years by the way. DH always falls off at higher mmrs. It’s just not as good as the other classes when played by skilled players against skilled players.
Outside of meta, dh only has high burst windows on eyebeam goes and with the hunt and it’s pretty easy to prevent eyebeam goes. Your a hunter just click feign death after essence break to have 90% dmg reduction on their meaningful dmg
Cool. Thanks for verifying that you are clueless.
You’re the one acting like a pseudo intellectual. I’m simply pointing out that in order to know if a class is over represented or under represented at different rating breakpoints, the only data you need is the overall data for class population at different rating points.
Playing a dh and knowing it basically in and out (Sat at the top 1% of Dhs with over 500 rounds play in that posifion), I think it’s fair to say I have a decent understanding of DHs toolkits, strengths, weaknesses, and how to counter them and play effectively into them.
Classes that are choreographed are easier to counter and DHs are very choreographed, and that lines up with the representation data. My analysis is definitely not in-depth, but it captures the reality that DHs are punishing against noobs and are definitely strong into good players, but no stronger than say a dk or warrior. In fact I think warrior may be stronger in many matchups and compositions.
I laughed.
At 2.1+ in RSS, they are the least targeted dps for a reason. 
They’re not the least targeted. At 2300+ rogues are
Complaining about anything other than rogue or rdruid right now means ur clueless beyond belief
So whats your threshold for dh? When does dh stops being considered god tier and gets “dominated” by high rated players?
1800? 2100?
So its fine for a spec like dh to cruise smoothly to 2100 because “eveyone up to that point is a noob and dh is noob stomper lol git gud”
Idk if you notice this but You are making an argument as to why dhs are still overtuned
I cruise smoothly to 2100 on all the class I play and personally felt it was easier to get 2100 on my mage. Hell my mage is almost 2k and I only played him like 3 weeks just to cap.
I play multiple classes. I think mage is even better at abusing noobs than DH is, but the other thing there is that requires more game knowledge than dh to get 2100
Why is it ok for a spec to uberpower their player to cruise to 2100? even tho they went HIGHER (at leats in rss)
Idc about you I am sure you are the best player out there but not only dh mains managed to climb, the others who had a dh ready to go on patch day also cruised to a rating they never had before. Is that ok?
Dunno I’ve been playing mage since legion and dh since bfa.
The wow communiry is fine with mage being strong for 15 years straight and complains any time DH is strong. I like to play dh when it’s good because it’s very fun to play.
I can tell you on my mage I never struggle against dh. I just root them when they eyebeam or DH them or blast wave them. They’re so easy to shut up unless the DH is a god, but then that dh probably deserved to win.
I really don’t think it’s a big deal if people hit a new seasonal high when a class is good. Every season there is a class that is stronger than most and every season that class gets higher ratings. I don’t really mind DHs being allowed to participate in that instead of it being only for locks, war, mages, and rogues
Lol it is a big deal because they only did it when the spec was at its highest how many rets dis that post rework. People that never touched the spec flocked to it because it was uberbroken. That should be avoided at all cost because it undermines time in your own spec when other just jump the ship to whatever is op that season.
Well I’ve played it for years. I just like high mobility classes. Most DHs are terrible so it shouldn’t be an issue.
DHs are the least targeted dps in RSS. At “all” ratings and at 2100+. If you want to claim it’s lower at 2300+, then where are you seeing that data?
So mage and DH. Got it.
Oh that’s cool, where did you get that data?
I’m kind of a data geek and would appreciate it if you shared it
I’m just going off of 1300 rounds played. Whenever I have a warrior or rogue on my team, they go me, otherwise for every other class I’m not normally the kill target.
Nah it seems the same between 2100 and 2300.
I don’t really see any stat on their for damage taken, so what does this data even show? Other than dh isn’t even close to having the highest win rate. Seems like it kind of goes against your whole premise.
Not sure if it was your intention but you basically sent data that indicates dh is not op based off of win rate.
The only time I go DH on either my SV or enhance is with a rogue and possibly warrior. If you’re not sitting a stun, you’re not dying. There is almost always a better target.
Win rate doesn’t mean much. That said, DH is almost exactly in the middle. If you want to go off win rates, then fury is the second best spec in the game at high ratings. Obviously that isn’t true.
This isn’t a good faith discussion I guess.
I’m just saying if something was truly overpowered, it’s odd that dh representation goes down as the mmr goes up, and DH has negative win rate; I’d just say it’s a stretch to say they’re op.
That being said, I’m happy to admit DH is S tier in solo shuffle, but so is dk and warrior among melee.
In solo shuffle I think melee in general have an edge because it’s easier for melee to be in sync yolo than casters I think. Not sure about that but that’s how it feels coming from someone who plays both.
It’s not odd at all. Something can be both insanely busted at 1400 and be ‘balanced’ at 2400.
You really need to play some other specs and see it from the receiving end of how absurd DHs are. They are essentially unkillable for the first minute of the game, assuming they aren’t completely braindead.
It’s just nuts to me that they can ignore LOS and push in without fear of being punished and have enough passive healing during their goes to just ignore their healer.
In lower ratings for sure. The more autonomous a spec can be, the more it tends todo better. DHs don’t need much if anything to setup their go and they have tons of tools to survive.
I’d like to know why DH needs netherwalk in addition to the rest of their defensive kit. It doesn’t help them against rogues which are their weakness anyway, and makes them infinitely more annoying to deal with versus anything that isn’t a rogue.
I save trinket nether for duel. It does save me against doggies
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