from the raids in season 4.
So players can focus on killing bosses, instead of wasting time on trash.
I’m saying this due to the rotation of the fated raids, 1 week each raid, so unless you’re saving the lockout each week(if it works and even then)… you’ll be spending plenty of time clearing trash instead of progressing the bosses.
Which imo is wasteful…
No trash = more time to bang your head against the bosses! = more fun!
Thanks.
Sounds a bit fun 
I think they tried that with the argent tournament raid but I think some complained it wasn’t long enough or something.
They should just have trash halls within raids. If you want to farm trash, go for it. If you want to progress through bosses and skip all the trash you can do that too.
Having to cut through trash mobs every week is such an annoying waste of time that provides little to no fun especially when your guild is trying to progress. It’s just filler
Well it had only 5 bosses though, versus the 10+ trash we have now.
They’ll also be on a 1 week Fated rotation, so progress might start over every time.
On normal 1 shotting the raid in a night is possible, heroic is harder but doable too… but mythic progress will be pretty hard, wasting time on trash makes it so you have less time on the bosses.
That’s understandable. I just figured that because they only did an Argent tournament style raid once and never did it again was because of some complaints. I mean I liked the Argent raid, I mostly do it solo but it’s pretty fun. More like that would certainly be interesting.
Or give it a reasonable chance to drop BoE’s. Make it worth people’s time and they’ll actually enjoy doing even something as trivial as clearing trash if there’s a chance of a reward. Just saying.
Why mot just remove the bosses too and just put a chest at the end, why should we actially have to put in efgort to earn items WoW should just give us everything without effort
Sorry but trash does not equal bosses.
There is no “effort” in killing trash, they’re basically target dummies that take time.
Your analogy is as weak as your character.
You have to earn the right to fight thr boss that means slogging through trash to get to the bosses,
It has been that way since 2004 and it should remain that way untill the servers shut down that is how WoW does dungeons and raids
Sorry, i didn’t fully notice i was talking with someone who has no clue why trash is named trash.
I like the idea, but I suspect we’ll be in 9.2.5 for a while, and Blizz isn’t going to let us clear content too quickly. And trash is one of many throttles they use to keep us playing longer.
The thing is that they said S4 is a shorter season.
Also how will Fated raids go?
Will we be able to save lockouts?
Since for example if we save Castle Nathria lockout on Fated week, we kill 5 bosses, next week Castle Nathria won’t be fated, will we be able to continue the lockout? Or will it have a separate one? How will we extend it?
if it can’t be extended, you’re basically required to start from scratch every raid every week… that’s not good for progress guilds.
Yea … Lets just zone into a big circle arena and just kill boss after boss … So much atmosphere in that.
Oh wait thats FF14. PAINFULLY boring.
Idk why you’re painting what doesn’t exist here, the raids are long and going from one end to another still takes time even without the trash, there’s a lot of scenery to take in.
Being disingenuous isn’t exactly a selling point btw.
Wow has been doing this in dungeons and raids since 2004 and it has worked fine, “if it aint broke dont fix it”
Wow hasn’t had any season 4 type of setup, don’t compare peanuts to oranges, it just makes you look dishonest.
I dont care what setup it is, thats how raid and dungeons are done in wow, dint like it play a different game stop tryong to change WoW
We didn’t have trash in Argent Tournament.
So no, it’s the same game.