Please Start Requiring a Sub for PTR

[Zerde-sargeras (Zerde)]

I’m with the OP on this. If you want to bash WoW, I have no qualms about that, but you should not be able to leech off it either.

[Cthuwu-greymane]

@Christhea-stormrage

It’s not like a PTA mom. This guy has openly said he’ll milk the free PTR to make money off of ppl who like WoW, when he himself no longer does.

Which is why I’m saying make ppl pay for the PTR as part of a WoW sub. Encourage them to engage the community in a more constructive way.

I have nothing against talking about the problems this game has, and I’m not blaming them all on him.

Why are you so caught up on the PTR like every single bit of information isn’t available at everyone’s finger tips on wowhead and other sites?

The idea that you’re gonna make “influencers” stop being negative about the only game you play by making them pay for the PTR is so completely out of touch, but then so is the idea that “influencers” need to be positive in the first place.

@Christhea-stormrage

Dude, you are CONSTNATLY editing your posts to add in more jabs. I keep getting more notifications from you editing posts you’d quoted me in.

I keep adding quotes to respond to, I’m not editing what I said at all.

@Christhea-stormrage

So you can’t really complain about things twisting, if you’re constantly changing or adding to your posts, rather then make new ones when the chain is still actively going.

And that comment wasn’t even directed at you, it was directed at the person who was actually twisting my words to make it sound like I said anyone who is positive is a shill, which is not at all what I said.

[Dreadsurge-sargeras]

ITT: Bellular and Blizzard simps alike.

Honestly, though, I don’t know how anybody could possibly watch that clown Bellular. He hasn’t done anything even remotely worth talking about in WoW ever yet pretends he’s some renowned game dev even though he hasn’t done anything on that front yet either.

[Luup-skullcrusher]

@Christhea-stormrage

It’s not like a PTA mom. This guy has openly said he’ll milk the free PTR to make money off of ppl who like WoW, when he himself no longer does.

Please link your source on this claim.

[Christhea-stormrage]

@Cthuwu-greymane

Why are you so caught up on the PTR like every single bit of information isn’t available at everyone’s finger tips on wowhead and other sites?

The idea that you’re gonna make “influencers” stop being negative about the only game you play by making them pay for the PTR is so completely out of touch, but then so is the idea that “influencers” need to be positive in the first place.

I’m not saying all influencers have to be positive. Or that they all need to be more constructive with their feedback rather then full on bashing.

My problem. Is that Bellular said he’s going to milk the free PTR and players who enjoy WoW, and hence will watch his vids. When he doesn’t even like the game, and he’ll just continue to bash it.

Like that’s ate up, and that’s what is bothering me. It also makes me wonder how many others who profit from datamining or videos do exacl5y what Bellular is now admitting to.

[Luup-skullcrusher]

@Christhea-stormrage

My problem. Is that Bellular said he’s going to milk the free PTR and players who enjoy WoW, and hence will watch his vids. When he doesn’t even like the game, and he’ll just continue to bash it

Source, please.

[Kiekö-laughing-skull (Kiekö)]

Just do what I do, don’t watch those kind of content creators!

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

[Eretloc-area-52]

@Kiekö-laughing-skull

Just do what I do, don’t watch those kind of content creators!

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[Christhea-stormrage]

@Luup-skullcrusher

Please link your source

@Luup-skullcrusher

Source

Seriously?! Blizzard Doubles Down On Store Purchases

In that video, he says he needs to cancel his WoW sub, because he doesn’t need it for the PTR and he doesn’t see himself actually playing the game.

[Cthuwu-greymane]

@Christhea-stormrage

I’m not saying all influencers have to be positive. Or that they all need to be more constructive with their feedback rather then full on bashing.

Oh, really?

@Christhea-stormrage

I’m saying he should be required to at least attempt to be a constructive community Pillar. There is a reason Content Creators are called influencers.

Weird.

@Christhea-stormrage

He’s literally making money off of causing discourse in the community that essentially paid him to make a video game company of his own.

@Christhea-stormrage

Like move on dude, stop trying to leech off of discourse.

Oh no! Not discourse!

@Christhea-stormrage

In that video, he says he needs to cancel his WoW sub, because he doesn’t need it for the PTR and he doesn’t see himself actually playing the game.

Literally and so what?

[Christhea-stormrage]

@Cthuwu-greymane

Oh, really

If you’re subbed to the game, it’s more likely you’ll actually participate with the community in game. Which in turn, makes you more constructive in the community. At the moment, he’s not even doing that.

Edit:

@Cthuwu-greymane

so what

That’s my whole point. He admits to milking those who like WoW for money. And that he himself doesn’t anymore. That’s what is messed up, and that’s why I’m pushing for the PTR to be part of the sub cost.

[Cthuwu-greymane]

@Christhea-stormrage

If you’re subbed to the game, it’s more likely you’ll actually participate with the community in game. Which in turn, makes you more constructive in the community. At the moment, he’s not even doing that.

Literally and so what?

[Jonashai-queldorei]

Here’s a better solution: stop watching Bellular videos and stop giving him free publicity with these types of posts.

[Caelin-boulderfist (Caelin)]

@Christhea-stormrage

Bellular

Just ignore him, he honestly isn’t even worth the time you spent creating this thread and all you are going to do is give him more attention than he deserves.

[Cthuwu-greymane]

@Christhea-stormrage

That’s my whole point. He admits to milking those who like WoW for money. And that he himself doesn’t anymore. That’s what is messed up, and that’s why I’m pushing for the PTR to be part of the sub cost.

As others have said before $15 sub isn’t going to make him be more positive. He’ll just pay the pittance, record the same footage and make the same videos.

You are just being petty, seems pretty trashy to me.

[Christhea-stormrage]

@Cthuwu-greymane

You are just being petty, seems pretty trashy to me.

I’m not being petty or trashy.

It’s disgusting to even try to defend someone who literally said they’re just going to hippocratically profit off of and milk ppl for money. Especially when he’s done all of this talk on Blizz is bad for milking players, yet here he is.

[Fenny-wyrmrest-accord]

@Christhea-stormrage

I just watched a Bellular video, and now he usually has really cool lore videos. However with each new video I watch, he just spends more and more time bashing WoW and hyping up FFXIV.

In the recent video I just watched, he even said he needed to cancel his WoW sub, because he was just going to play the free PTR to make money off of WoW, while also bashing it more.

That’s just trashy, and only furthers negativity and discontent within the community. Heck, when I see content creators bash and point out WoW flaws so often, it almost makes me feel bad for enjoying the game, and I end up second guessing wether or not I enjoy the game.

So please, start requiring people to have an active WoW sub to play the WoW PTR. Otherwise they won’t sub. They’ll just abuse the free PTR to make content (getting themselves money) and bashing the game in the process, thus driving more people away.

Here’s another option, and hang tight with me here because I know this is a crazy idea…

…but what if Blizzard fixed the game so that everyone wouldn’t run off to greener pastures?

Crazy, right?!

[Luup-skullcrusher]

@Christhea-stormrage

literally said they’re just going to hippocratically profit off of and milk ppl for money.

Wow, someone being honest about YouTube? Game changer.

[Caelin-boulderfist (Caelin)]

@Cthuwu-greymane

You are just being petty, seems pretty trashy to me.

I would argue that someone who’s only interest in the game is to earn money on click bait and outrage videos over a game he doesn’t even play is “petty” and “trashy” to me.

[Cthuwu-greymane]

@Christhea-stormrage

I’m not being petty or trashy.

You’re being entirely petty and every post you sound more like a child.

@Christhea-stormrage

It’s disgusting to even try to defend someone who literally said they’re just going to hippocratically profit off of and milk ppl for money. Especially when he’s done all of this talk on Blizz is bad for milking players, yet here he is.

I’ll defend anyone’s ability to say whatever they want about whatever video game and whatever multi-billion dollar company they feel like saying things about.

If you call that “disgusting” I don’t really give two wet turds since you’re out here trying to be the thought police which is infinitely more disgusting.