There is nothing fun about this
I like it, the only thing they need to do is increase the range of primordial storm.
Primordial storm doesnât exist for elemental. They just changed primordial wave and removed the lava burst duplication part of it so now it just sends a little elemental tickle out to all your homies with flame shock on them and boosts your haste if talented.
They really do need to either update it for elemental or change it back.
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Ohhhhh. I donât play elemental, so I havenât tested it. If itâs only a numbers thing they can fix that. They will probably adjust numbers elsewhere in an effort to even out ele burst.
Yeah I hope so. Itâd be nice if they also canned the weak animation too. I know someone out love and care into it just a few patches ago but ⌠they probably should just make it cast lava burst on all your flame shock homies instead because you can barely tell anything is happening when you cast it lol.
Iâm not sure what they need to do with elemental, but I just find it boring. I havenât played it in ages so it may be better in pve, but seeing PvP, itâs just all lava bursts and hoping to chain a bunch of procs. Had a shaman in a lobby yesterday, 3 casts of lava bursts, 40 lava bursts sent outâŚThat lotto nonsense needs to go.
Itâs not a numbers thing though. Itâs a âno longer works with our masteryâ, and âit no longer gives maelstromâ, and âweâre forced to use it because of farseer anywayâ, AND a numbers issue though. Ignoring the issue that mass lava burst casts were one of our better spell effects as well, and also various other issues with flame strike spread being unwieldy for ele in comparison to enh which has several different ways to get to 6 targets fast.
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I say junk primordial wave on all specs. Keep primordial storm on enhancement.
Come up with something not tainted by the shadowlands for elemental.
Name it primordial eruption or something? Make it a maelstrom spender.
Primordial Eruption:
Trigger a powerful eruption from all targets with flame shock causing nature and fire damage, and inflicting nearby targets with flame shock for 18s
Replaces earthquake.
15s cooldown.
You could potentially chain this
Iâve liked Primordial Wave (PW) as Elemental since Shadowlands (SL) because of how it interacts interestingly with the kit. Iâve liked the improvements to it, except this one.
In my mind, this is a fantastic adaptation of the ability for Enhancement. PW was never a good fit for enhancement, and itâs one of the many reasons my shaman buddies chose Venthyr back in SL.
This is an absolute dirty bomb for Elemental with how its working. Weâll have to use it because itâs a key trigger for other aspects of the spec. Itâs just a betrayal of the years of design and operation.
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I donât think theyâre gonna leave it as it is because itâs just so useless in its current form lol.
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The fact they said removing lava burst will reduce the complexity of prim wave is mind blowing to me. Its just objectively not correct.
I assume it was copy paste from enhancement ie removing lightning bolt from prim wave actually does make prim wave less complex for enhance, but they also got an additional thing to prim wave (primordial storm) to make it more interesting. enhance has higher apm and more to manage, so removing that extra button press is pretty nice for enh.
For ele though, removing lava burst just neuters prim wave so hard and it isnât at all what makes prim wave complex. Its crazy they said that. What makes prim wave complex is different between the 2 specs, for ele it is flame shock spreading and maintenance, for enhance its having an additional button to press right after pwave to get the damage on top of having high apm and a decent bit to focus on. And for ele, prim wave gives a guaranteed lava surge proc so your primed lava burst would be instant, making it so much easier and more fun to use, it felt so good.
not only did they remove the -most- fun part of Elementals prim wave being cleaving a bunch of lava bursts and overloaded lava bursts, but they actually made the only complex portion of prim wave even more complex by reducing our flame shock applications since its removed from pwave lol.
Just need to keep screaming about it and hopefully they will see this. Bump the threads and keep the conversations going, here and in the 11.1 forum. This is why they should never try to keep abilities âthe sameâ across the specs outside of utility mostly. Prim wave does not have to do the same thing for ele that it does for enh, they are different specs.
Even if they gave prim wave the same maelstrom gen as lava burst and allowed it to overload, Iâd still want to have the lava burst cleave. It was just so thematic for ele losing that sucks. Its very possible we get changes over the next few weeks though, cant forget those ptr notes came out just a couple days before the holidays, so this tuesday will be our first ptr âreset/note dayâ if we get any but until we see it ourselves just gotta keep talking about it.
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Plus the animation for PW is just so wimpy. The damage is so wimpy. The haste buff is still good but probably not worth 4/10 of your most valuable talent points.
They should just remove the PW requirement from farseer becuase itâs supposed to be this cornerstone talent and now it sucks.
Or they could just leave it well enough alone since its literally fine now that it gives a lava surge proc and it has been in various states of acceptable to good since s3 shadowlands.
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I remember years and years ago, there was a panel with wow devs. Someone asked about an addon that automatically marked healers in battle grounds. The dev said something along the lines of âno we wonât be breaking that addon, it just quickly does something that you can already do in gameâ. Except you canât mark targets in BGâs so it was an âillegalâ function.
Itâs things like these that remind me that they have little clue about the game they are developing and making changes for.
Jeeze ⌠All the PTR forum pleas and live-forum threads like this one â Over a month ago, and Blizzard still went forward with the terrible decision on Primordial Wave 
#ChangePrimordialWaveBack
Undermine(d) ruined Prim-Wave 
Especially for Elemental.
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Crazy there has been no feedback from Blizz at all. Can you imagine sucking at your job this badly and still being employed? How do you break a class / spec so badly and then not immediately communicate to the community that you are working to fix it.
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Commenting and upvoting every post about this until blizz says something. It needs to go back.
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Iâll be doing the same!
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