At least we can all agree that blizzard does not care about its playerbase
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I don’t particular think this way, They have their own set of priorities/visions which will never align with at least some set of players. In this case i happened to be in the group that it did not align with. The for example dual spec or no, i agree with no dual spec but large set of players does not. There will never be perfect solution.
What they are lacking however is a good communication back with playerbase imho.
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I don’t have 1,200 threads.
More because you’ve yet to show a lie.
In the very sentence you quote (without attribution I might add) you undo your entire argument:
Note you link the phrase “unintended behavior” with the claim “nothing even resembling [unintended behavior] were used in regards to powershifting”
This is flatly false. GC specifically states that Blizzard has taken pains to discourage powershifting and that anything resembling it is “less cool.” It doesn’t take a thesaurus or dictionary to understand that something Blizzard is discouraging would itself be unintended since Blizzard gets to set the standard on intention.
Holy crap, if you’re going to trot out an attempt at slam dunk, don’t pick a quote that overtly harms your case.
just checking in to say hi
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hmm ok? Confused here, did i say you did?
Did i say what you said i did? No i didn’t i provided with direct quote of what i said in that case. It is no where remotely close. You lied. Fact. (not that you take those seriosly)
So now 8? posts later you finally produce the “evidence”.
Here is a news flash. The doc is about changes in WRATH to WRATH bet, it is not even original set of change introduced in WRATH beta, it is about changes happening mid cycle. Since no where does it states that it talks about 4 years worth of expansion, is madness to assume this talks about anything other then the topic of the doc, which is well WRATH beta.
And yes in fact in WRATH and WRATH beta, they have taken steps to discourage poweshifting.
More so as a developer i will even tell you most likely reason why. Because introducing a new engaging system that cat got in wrath, and balancing it around powershifting is a nearly impossible task. Cat rotation in wrath is already at least top 10 more complicated rotations in history of wow, adding powershifting to the mix makes it outright insane and nearly impossible to balance.
The one of the obvious and logical solutions is discourage/remove powershifting. But even then they did not “fix unintended behavior” but rather provided incentives to not use it.
Or you think blizzard was trying to provide incentive to player to not use exploit/bug/unintended behavior lol? Oh there is a this exploit/bug/unintended behavior but we not going to fix it, we ll just give you goodies to not use it… LOL
The fact that you imagining that what you want it to say is well… you being you i guess.
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Stopping right here, because this response is exactly why you’re confused perpetually by all discussion. I’ll illustrate it in a single post so maybe you can follow:
IF YOU CAN’T FOLLOW WHY MY LAST QUOTE SAYS WHAT IT DOES YOU HAVE SEVERE READING COMPREHENSION ISSUES THAT I CANNOT FIX
PS - If you fail this test I’m going to simply put you on Ignore from here on out. Either by willful ignorance or horrible life circumstances you seem incapable to avoiding a hyper-literal interpretation.
And how exactly do i use Ctrl +F to find that post again?
Which i did find btw through your profile which has list of topic created. I had no clue that was part of profile, and has nothing to do with Ctrl+F.
But rather then providing a link to you post you went on your usual pointless rant.
Now we can actually look at what you consider as evidence, which was what i asked you for ages now lol.
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You fail.
You fail hard.
Goodbye!
Thank you!
P.S. I did read your post and it does’t have anything other proof rather then the change in wrath. The fact that you wrote 2 pages of BS trying to say even though it is about wrath and does not say a word about classic or TBC it means something it does not actually say, does not make it true. So when i asked you to provide any evidence besides wrath doc you didn’t have any as expected.
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bump fix the tick
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bump. arena is out already, this is a joke lol
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Another span of silence, another bump.
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So here’s the thing, blizzard clearly has no problem with simple rotations. If they’d liked powershifting as a mechanic they would have simply left power shifting as is and buffed its damage. The very simple fact blizzard didn’t care about power shifting back in 2.2 originally, specifically moved away from it the first time they looked at kitty dps in any serious manner and has once again ignored it should give you a very very good idea of how little blizzard ever cared about power shifting.
I’ll give you hint, they were at best indifferent about it, it was just never worth nerfing.
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#fixcattick
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Off topic but (if you answer my question Ill bump a reply later deal?) DO kittys still have to use powershifting in order to do damage?
technically we just have to /startattack to do damage. yes, powershifting is still a large dps gain over not powershifting if we are trying to do more damage.
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Yup. There’d be no need to eliminate literally every usage of powershifting except breaking roots/snares in WotLK (with Cata bringing the death of root breaking as well) if powershifting itself was preferable or acceptable. Blizzard very clearly asked themselves: why are Druids canceling forms just to pop back in?
- To use off-the-GCD consumables
- To generate Energy
- To proc weapon enchants
- To break some forms of CC
So Blizzard decided to kill off powershifting as well as any possible niche use for it by:
- Making all consumables usable in forms
- Making Tiger’s Fury generate a ton of Energy (and be a useful button)
- Make all weapon enchants usable in forms
Then, once Feral was considered strong enough to stand on its own two (four?) feet as a competitive class and Blizzard did a “no hard counters” pass in Cata, Blizzard killed Druids’ ability to break roots.
Apparently in Legion they also made leaving forms cost us a GCD, not sure if that’s still a thing, presumably to tone down the speed/fluidity of a lot of classes that were just a bit too slippery still.
To claim powershifting was ever actively supported or treated as intended by Blizzard requires ignoring a decade+ of time in which they did the exact opposite.
This, a thousand times this.
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Blizzard didn’t even kill hard kill powershifting, furor is still in wrath and working exactly the same. It’s just that the changes that further increase the DPE of bleeds and the addition of SR make spamming shred the worst damage a druid can do even with power shifting as pooling energy in favor of properly timed abilities becomes much more important.
Letting furor function as it was originally intended, as some quick resources when frequently switching between forms, not as an infinite mana battery for cats.
Furor changes between TBC and WotLK though to only retain Energy up to a certain point, rather than grant Energy. So no gain at all, just retention as if your Energy bar never disappeared, making it truly a perfect analog for Tactical Mastery, but with a Druid flavor.
Only Bear Form retained the “gain” language of Furor.
https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#0ZZ0x
#fixcattick
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