You don’t think boredom leads to people leaving in large numbers? Or is this what you mean, that a natural culling will ultimately set things straight? I think for every bored Horde that leaves Herod, there will be a frustrated Alliance who leaves as well, which perpetuates the imbalance.
I hear ya though, under-dogging is great but not when rewards are linked to output, production. Simply harder to achieve when you’re swimming upstream.
That’s not what I said at all.
Well, then elaborate on this. Why is imbalance good?
I also never stated this.
The blanket statement, “Imbalance is bad” is not necessarily true. Something not being bad does not imply that it is necessarily good. I would gather this is a pretty obvious thing to point out, and I wonder why I find myself in a position to do so.
EDIT:
In any case, if you are genuinely interested in some of my thoughts around faction balance, and the current state of WPVP on some of the more disparate servers, I think it would be a good idea to define a few things first, and to pose a couple of questions, I think are worthy of answering:
- what precisely is faction balance? (how do we define it, precisely)
- what problem(s) precisely exist as a result of faction imbalance?
- can we measure them? Are they worse on worse balanced servers and better on better balanced ones?
- do they not exist on balanced servers?
- do any of these problems exist on unbalanced PVE servers?
I thought you might have something meaningful to say. Thanks Buddha.
The point is organic PvP would be balanced, there would be a 50/50 chance of each faction on a farming node… or out in the world etc… Ganking parties are not real wPvP.
Is it?
Is that what we are currently seeing on servers that are balanced?
do ppl complain on whitemane?
Yes. People complain everywhere 
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if that sort of server existed i’d roll on it just to go horde and get put on the “special layer” with nobody on it and farm for free all day
I believe the beauty of wpvp is that you nor I get to decide what wpvp is. It’s organic and happens naturally. You may personally find being in a raid group and camping a flight path but I do not.
One of my favorite experiences I’ve had so far was in stv at they nesy camp. I was just wanting to turn in my raptor quest when a gnome warlock started dotting me up. I killed him then a pally came and finished me off. I got some back up and they got some back up. We fought for over 4 and a half hours. Of just pure back and forth. Was so memorable and so glorious and when we got the camp back it felt amazing.
I believe wpvp is what you make it. A lot of people arn’t creative and cant find the fun in video games anymore. It’s a shame.
-Undead Rogue.
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yea i agree cant tell if u are disagreeing with me or not. That is what I was saying. i played on Nost where I leveld like 8 alts… all cause there was constant wPvP that was organic.
I would level around 2 levels, get new spells and talents, and would be so excited to test them out in the world. Every zone had levelers who where questing, farming, etc, and it created many scenarios for wPvP. I couldnt level, because I didn’t WANT to due to always being caught up in some wPvP. I only had one 60 and like 6 other lvl 20-50s lol. But it was the most fun I’ve had with WoW from all expansions.
On classic I got none of it… oh well. Everyone just speed lvled, ignored each other… in phase 2 everyone just grouped in zerg… I got to gank at least but it felt meaningless.
I truly think ppl have forgotten the word “fun”. Video games are about fun… That is why I want to go to an RP server maybe ppl find fun ther more.
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yeah just convince thousands of people to reroll on your two servers, that’s a realistic and achievable goal 
in all seriousness i’m on board with the idea of opening up a server or two down the road where there’s queue if the population discrepancy grows too large at any given time. we’re already past the point of #nochanges due to layering and this really doesn’t affect the gameplay directly or other servers.
How you describe this is exactly what I would love to see.
Someone else commented here that it would require balancing layers on zones themselves to make such a thing occur here. That’d be a neat solution, but far more complicated than a queue.
custom servers that blizzard rents out could literally be the next billion dollar idea
You clearly have no clue to what the WPvP issues really are and it has nothing to do with balance
Just about every suggestion I’ve seen for managing faction imbalance wouldn’t work.
Say I play Horde on an imaginary PvP server called Slytherin. I don’t have a level 60 character, my highest is a level 35 along with a few alts for banking and professions. So I want to log on to play my level 35. But I can’t because of this server queue which is an hour long for Horde. So I go off to play on another server and never do get to level up my alt because all the people wanting to play their 60’s are ahead of me.
Or say I’m playing Alliance on Slytherin and I log onto my level 35 Alliance toon - this has zero effect on the faction balance because its at cap where all the issues of imbalance are most strongly felt.
And I’m confused about the “special layer” thing. What does that mean? All the Horde get put on one layer and all the Alliance on another? Or some sort of weird filtering system where Horde bleed through into the main layer on a % basis? That would be chaotic because people would be logging on and off and you wouldn’t know where you were from moment to moment; you’d be in a group and parts of the group would disappear or you’d disappear when you got moved and well, yeah…not such a good thing.
So no, not seeing that as a viable solution.
You can have fresh servers with faction queues, locked creation and special layers all you want. Nothing is going to make the care bears leave Ironforge. You’re going to have an aneurysm when you run into BRM and find despite all the queues, locks and gates you’ve setup your little 5 man is still going to run into a group you’re not prepared for. Because just like your life, WoW isn’t fair.
If you want sharded warmode PvP, go play freaking retail.
I love the idea but let’s be real friend. This will never happen. I saw balance twice. One server they opened up to 60 xfers less than a week after opening. That server got trashed fast.
The other saw a mass exodus from Horde Dominated servers that screwed up our balance quicker than you can say Mankirk’s Wife.
Even if they opened it, they would find a way to screw it up.
Please don’t ask for impossible things.
How could it be a “balanced server”? Blizzard has never done that in 15 years. They don’t know how to do it.
How does a game company, with NO control over ANY player, create a balanced server? I don’t know. Blizzard doesn’t know. Do you know?
Or are you just asking for impossible things?