The Wotlk Community is way better then original release. Blizzard please don’t introduce the DMG buff to raiders in ICC for at least 3 months into ICC.
Normal mode exist for a reason, no need to give out free Heroic loot.
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They won’t. Nor did they do it in the OG. It will come out later, gradually, as a lot of guilds will have it on farm by then anyway.
Kinda useless thread.
edit: see below for OP getting his facts false and me correcting it.
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1 month after ICC was released in OG Wotlk, a 5% buff was added. That buff then staggered each week up until 30%.
So, please don’t say their didn’t do it in the OG.
Blizzard should refrain from providing any handicaps in to ICC.
So, later, gradually, like Flamelink said…
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That’s factually false information.
ICC was release on December 8th 2009
Buff wasn’t released until March 2nd 2010. That’s 3 months.
Then 5% were added once per month (last week of every month starting March), with it reaching 30% end of July.
(2010-03-02): Strength of Wrynn activated at 5%.
(2010-03-30): Strength of Wrynn increased to 10%.
(2010-04-27): Strength of Wrynn increased to 15%.
(2010-05-25): Strength of Wrynn increased to 20%.
(2010-06-22): Strength of Wrynn increased to 25%.
(2010-07-20): Strength of Wrynn increased to 30%.
And like I said earlier, they didn’t release ICC with capped out buff, nor would they do it this time around.
My point still stands.
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What an edgelord.
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Hard stuck FL HM still?
Why you whining so much? Like someone else already stated the hardcore raiders will already have it on farm and it enables the struggling raid groups to progress a bit further. People want to see the content and experience it for themselves and this helps make that happen. Just because you are so clearly AMAZING at this game doesnt mean others are… (and yes the previous statement was sarcasm)
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They way I think they should handle the buff, is to have phase 4 last 3 months, then introduce phase 4.5 with Ruby Sanctum and at that point begin applying the buff 5% at a time on a weekly or biweekly basis.
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Nah, just put it in at the 2 month mark. If you haven’t cleared it in 2 months what does it matter anymore anyways? You’re just gatekeeping people from content/loot at that point.
Who cares? Its a decades old game. No one is getting “world first,” they’re getting “classic first.” Just let people have fun and get shiny purple things.
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level 70 who hasnt even made it to 80 to do FL HM lmao got no room to talk
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Because it’s current content. I have always been for nerfing old content to let others experience it. Ulduar should have been nerfed 3 months in the same as I feel they should do ICC, but they are keeping it’s pre nerf version for some reason.
Midway through a phase is absolutely a good time for the buff.
Also not opposed to adding the 5% buff in after a month, and then every month after that increasing it by 5%.
Honestly after 4-8 lockouts it irrelevant. You’re either going to kill HLK in the first 2 months, or you’re a guild that needs the buff. There is a very hard declination between those two groups.
Honestly unless you think you’re going to be one of the few guilds “on the line,” and want one last chance to kill HLK before the buff… you’re just being selfish. After 8 lockouts with gear from 245 dungeons, 10/25 ICC, continued ToGC farming… it won’t be a GS issue anymore… It will be a skill/coordination issue.
Just let it go. 3 month max until buffs come out… that’s 4.5 months till full buff is out. That takes us to March. With a Cata release in spring. Plus you still gotta fit Ruby Sanctum in there.
My money is on ICC no buff for 2 months and Ruby Sanctum coming out in 1 month.
I think a good timeline would be…
Jan 2nd, Ruby Sanctum + ICC 5% Buff
Jan 9 10%
Jan 16 15%
Jan 23 20%
Jan 30 25%
Feb 6 30%
March 26th Cata Prepatch
April 23 Cata Launch
This would give people
12 Weeks ICC with no buff.
5 Weeks ICC with partial buff.
11 Weeks ICC with full buff.
The full zone wasn’t even open for most of that time.
It started ramping up after they fully opened ICC at a steady rate.
Since we are skipping the gated entry, it also makes sense to skip some of that buff delay. (Plus, this phase is likely to be much shorter than it was back then)
Anyone desiring the “challenge” is free to disable it anyway. It’s not like a dungeon nerf where you are stuck with the new difficulty if you find it boring.
Also, it’s the last tier. People are more likely to quit this time rather than push through an overtuned difficulty (the place was always designed with the buff in mind).
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It came out 1 month after Lich King became available. They originally gated ICC wing releases. So technically yes, it was released 1 month after the full raid came out
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I forgot about the gated entry, it may make sense to move it up.
Just toggle it off if you’re as tough as you aim to portray?
You know you can toggle it off… right?
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